Discussion in '9/11' started by cjnewson88, Mar 10, 2013.
You've got nothing but empty paranoia,fraud
Pay attention. I didn't say he wasn't credible. I asked if I was looking at the same guy. Is that the same guy?
Yes, I would say they are one on the same. So?
Are you familiar with the term "academic fraud?"
I'm familiar with knowing that ANY source that doesn't align perfectly with the "official" BS story is torn down, discredited, and ridiculed. Par for the course when dealing with team players. It wouldn't matter what I referenced. You'd find fault with it and would be instantly discredited no matter the content, or the source. I could have a high definition copy of something other than 77 hitting the Pentagon (for instance) and you'd call it bogus no matter what. Am I right?
Have you done anything to verify his research? Do you know anything at all about it? For instance, did you know that he thinks that the gravity generated by a specific mass can be modulated by adding or subtracting RF energy to/from the mass? In other words, gravitational fields interact with electromagnetic fields. Further, he believes that the effect of gravity can be nullified or even reversed with an electromagnetic field.
Do you think this is true?
Did you know he thinks that extremely low frequency radiation can cause Earth quakes? Do you know what sorts of things generate ELF?
Oh, what the hey, I feel like wasting some time. No real possibility of honest debate here anyway so...
No, I haven't researched his material as thoroughly as I'd like to. Basically, I picked his information in some silly attempt to find something you boys would deem somewhat credible. I should have known better, and I do. My first mistake. Much of his information isn't that different in basic substance than what other experts (whom I would consider experts, based on their knowledge of the subject at hand and their ability to express it in somewhat plainer English, versus long, drawn out, over complex, unneeded rhetoric) so I chose it on a whim. Second mistake. There. That work for ya?
ELF can generate earthquakes IN MY OPINION, based on what I've read on the subject, so yeah, I can find that valid without much of an effort. Manipulating ELF, generating it, or otherwise experimenting with it has been a military objective for quite some time now so, I'd have to agree with that basic premise, yes. Gravity? Not sure about that as I haven't checked out that aspect so, that's a no, for now.
I'd like YOU to tell me what kinds of things generate ELF, (in a somewhat short and concise manner if at all possible, preferably less than 10 pages). Can you do that?
By the way, would you agree that no matter what I presented that is counter to the "official" BS story, it wouldn't matter because that's not the agenda here? My beliefs concerning 9/11 and the stench that reeks from the "official" explanations given are only reinforced when I see how much time and energy is spent here by the same old cast of characters over and over, year after year, post after post. Spending that much effort to defend what's supposed to be such an easy story to believe, and what's supposed to be so "clear" as to how it happened, is highly suspect (and often very entertaining too). Why spend that much time promoting what is supposed to be accepted fact? Why not let the "kooks" ramble on and spend the resources on something else that's "not so clear cut", that "only kooks think"? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but, hey, that's just me.
This is a cop out. Stop making excuses.
The problem here isn't the credibility of the person you chose. The problem is your own credibility. Time and again you have assumed that something you found on the internet supported your view, and you presented it as evidence for your claims. Time and again we find that a little bit of investigation is all it takes to find out that you didn't know what you were talking about, didn't bother to look into the claims you presented, and didn't know that the information that you trotted out was nonsense. This case is no exception. You keep trying to bash us for not asking questions about the "official story" Pay close attention, RWF. That's EXACTLY what you do day in and day out in support of your belief in some alternative theory.
So yet again you have no idea what De Aquino was studying, or implying, and yet again you got burned by bad information. De Aquino thinks that ELF interrupts the Earth's gravitational field. He thinks that we can make the Earth have ZERO gravity or even NEGATIVE gravity by manipulating RF.
Lightening generates it. It is generated in the same region of the atmosphere and in the exact same way as it is generated by a HAARP signal. Does Lightening generate Earth quakes?
More cop out. You don't have to make excuses for your failure to promote your theories. We already know why you keep failing. It's laziness. You don't bother to check out these claims that you think support your view.
And as an addendum:
The reason the military is interested in ELF is communication. ELF stands for extremely low frequency. Signals in this band can travel very long distances through bodies that don't carry higher frequency signals. By extremely low, we're talking wavelengths thousands of miles long. They take lots of energy to generate, but the energy contained in them is actually very low. Because their wavelength is so long, it's not exactly something you can focus into a beam and target a specific area with. The whole Earth resonates, not just one specific location on the Earth.
It's like using the earth as a big sub-woofer. IIRC, the primary use for this would be for communication with nuc subs.
and in fact he, whoever he is would be correct if that is what he said.
1 way communication. SLOOOWLY. And everyone on the planet can listen.
tough to use propaganda for wars when the world knows the truth.
all transmitters are one way btw in the transmit mode. LOL
oh and its not slowly either, (what bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!) LMAO
even cell phones are one way at any given instant.
sure you can, "loosely speaking" just a bigger area than hf
I assume Koko is busy saying dumb stuff in regards to what I wrote?
It used to be,prior to satellite communications
And the sun rose yet again today.
sorry not my fault you like most troughers are blathering on what you know nothing about.
I see. Well thank you for your responses. I've read quite a lot of information on the HAARP subject, and of course, the 9/11 subject (I own literally dozens of books, and countless video dissertations on the subject, and I consider myself much more knowledgeable than the average uninformed everyday citizen. You will continue to characterize everything and anything I post as illegitimate and you'll ridicule it. I am quite aware of that and have been for years with the folks here. You boys keep squawking about references, and "cite this, and cite that", yet EVERY single time I do, you can find no validity to anything (other than your won rhetoric). Again, it wouldn't matter WHAT I would or could site, it would be dismissed forthright. Nick Bergman and Rosa Bertell. I have plenty of well thought out and science based information, as do a great many others. Wouldn't matter what it was though, because the objective with the boys here, is to muffle, mute or distort anything that counters the "official" line, and I understand that. Hence, my lack of motivation to go to great lengths to introduce a logical debate, as it's completely pointless to even try. Call that a cop out. Call it whatever you like. It's the reality.
See? I started out stating this exercise would be a complete waste of time. So, I now turn the attempt at logical discussion back over to the folks in charge who do such a fine job at keeping the control of this section at bay so very well.
Now back to you boys. Pardon my interruption.
I think you quoted the wrong person in your post because nothing you said here addresses what you quoted. For the sake of brevity, does lightening cause Earth quakes?
yeh thats the puppy chow version they sell at the 5 and dime store
is it possible? yes
does it require near perfect circumstances? yes
is it more or less likely? less
could man do that with an appropriate antenna rig? yes
so I wanna know if lefty got my pass to play for a month with the toys my tax dollars built?
I know you like to prop yourself as an educated and enlightened individual, but the pablum you post belies that being a real possibility.
Now, don't you have some much needed self-affirmation to get back to koko?
Due diligence, it's a concept you should embrace.
I contribute far more to intellectual pursuits than your meaningless drive by sarcasm.
You know, even thought its pretty difficult to bring every thing down to a level official parrots can comprehend.
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