5 winners and 3 losers from Election Day 2019

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/5/20949741/winners-and-losers-election-night-2019

All the rest of the quotes here are from the link at the top unless noted otherwise.

As of 2 am the GOP candidate Bevin is losing by 5000 votes. The BLOTUS made this one personal and is paying the price in a Red state.

Sad!

This is an excellent sign for the Dems. In both Red and Blue states the Dems are committed and that commitment is paying dividends in terms of results. In terms of actual seats it is small but those seats are CRUCIAL because CONTROL and POWER changed hands with those seats. Furthermore the TURNOUT has increased significantly which means that Dem GOTV efforts are working.

Bear in mind that this started at the beginning of 2017 and it swept through 2018 as a Blue Wave and is still there in an off-year election with virtually no media coverage worth mentioning. Getting voters ENGAGED without the national MSM means that social and local media were used effectively.

Gov Bevin was using the same language as the BLOTUS when it came to unionized teachers and he has paid the price and so has the BLOTUS.

Teachers are professional educators and deserve respect and admiration for their dedication to their jobs in spite of DECADES of denigration and being underpaid due to nefarious GOP disinformation about our education system here in the USA.

Hopefully this win will spur on other teachers nationwide to push back against those GOP policies and allow teachers to regain the respect and dignity that they deserve.

This a POSITIVE SIGN for We the People in what is one of our darkest hours IMO.

The NRA is becoming less and less relevant politically which is another POSITIVE SIGN for We the People IMO.

Most of what needs to be said is in the quote above. The DEMISE of GOP gerrymandering means that the GOP will have to change direction in order to attract a more diversified base of support or become irrelevant as a minority party without political power.

The best case is that the right leaning Millennials take over the GOP and change the direction and messaging of the party. America does need a strong GENUINE conservative party that puts the needs of We the People above party loyalty. It would be nice if this happens but I am not holding my breath because what we are observing now is more akin to the dinosaurs raging at the meteorite than any move towards a normalization of the party platform.

That said this is a win for We the People and a loss for the GOP that does not bode well for them in 2020.

Giving a shoutout to @Meta777 here because this is a WIN for those of us who are advocating for Ranked Voting. Yes, it is still insignificant on a national scale but it is a move in the right direction and we are probably going to see much more of this in the future.

Another step in the right direction for EQUAL RIGHTS!

Granted there will still need to be another step taken by Congress for this to become the Law of the Land and if the Senate obstructs it then that makes this another rallying point for the Dems in 2020 to flip the Senate. Given that the GOP is already facing a tough Senate election year this could be the issue that makes the difference in the balance of power.

Needless to say in our forum there are those who will other opinions but OVERALL this election was another POSITIVE for Dems and a NEGATIVE for the GOP.

The above are all factors that are going to have some impact to a greater or lessor extent in 2020 so this OP is intended to make note of them and any ensuing discussions will be welcome.

Worth noting that in all of the issues above the impeachment was NOT a factor with the possible exception of the KY Governors race but even there I don't see it myself. The teachers were the key constituency that flipped it IMO.

I left out the Medicaid Expansion issue from the article since it does not appear to be a major issue for 2020 but I could be wrong on that.

In summary the BLOTUS on the ballot cost the GOP a governors mansion. The Dems enthusiasm and the redrawing of GOP gerrymandered districts cost the GOP control of the state of VA. The GOP can no longer count on the NRA. Those 3 NEGATIVES were not offset by any significant and/or unexpected wins for the GOP while the Dems scored wins up and down the ballot.

As a precursor to 2020 the GOP has a great deal of heavy lifting if it wants to alter the Blue Trend already in progress.

Your thoughts?

 

Ending gerrymandering and voting reform needs to be the big push for every democrat across the nation.
Along with education and healthcare refroms.

Republicans — with their current platform — cannot win based on numbers and elimination of gerrymandering would effectively lock them out of the House indefinitely. From there they can push ranked choice or alternative voting which would likely remove the Senate and possibly the Presidency from Republican control for the foreseeable future.

The party will have to either evolve or die.

 

I think Trump and the GOP are toast in 2020.

We haven't won yet by a long shot but it seems more than just a little likely Dems will win at least the Presidency back in 2020 and may even retake the Senate. It is even possible we may get rid of Trump before that, either by outright removal if the Senate should turn against him or by his resigning; which resignation could be forced by agreeing not to prosecute him after he is voted out or impeached.

Some things possibly helping these developments

The SCOTUS upholding the restrictive abortion laws. Something like 70% of the electorate would turn out in force to overturn Republicans and pass the ERA, which includes reproductive rights

Trump redoubling his efforts to finally repeal Obamacare and/or the SCOTUS upholding the court ruling against it . I see this as a likely development because it seems that Trump has the advantage here with the courts declaring it illegal . He has also come to believe his own propaganda and thinks the entirely of America agrees with him and his acolytes. Again, doing this would call the electorate out in force to elect progressives who promise to restore healthcare.

All in all very good developments. I see very little downside to any of them.

 

You didn't end gerrymandering you just changed whose doing it.

 

Partisan gerrymandering by either side should be outlawed on a national level.

Neither side should be allowed to do it, it goes against the very principals of democracy.

 

It is but bear in mind the courts have done there share. In fact if memory serves Sheila Jackson Lee's odd district was original a creation of the courts a more than a few other members of the congressional black caucaus occupy court mandated Gerrymanders

 

I don’t know what you are specifically referencing but I am against all partisan gerrymandering.
Currently republicans are the worst offenders, even taking it so far as to the SCOTUS to be able to continue it.

 

The people spoke -- Being a Trump supporter I don't like some results but unlike some sore loosers (you know who they are) I'll accept the results.

 

Fair enough!

 

So, Virginia acknowledged that it must have more handouts. KY chose the son of a former governor who, to date hasn't ever governed and folks are suggesting that more handouts will follow there. I don't particularly like these results. I think the voters in those states are short sighted, but two states have decided that their future is more expense and more taxation for those who provide the jobs in those states. I look for large businesses to begin the relocation process.

 

Perfect response. A little class which is the complete opposite of the actions we see from so many of the democrats following any loss.

 

In Mississippi there is no longer a single democrat holding statewide office. Nary a one.

Democrat Jim Hood even shot his rifle with a silencer on it and hit a beer bottle at 250 yards in his latest campaign ad, but despite this marksmanship Trump and Pence helped defeat him handily.

Hood is replaced by a republican woman AG.

The party that birthed the Kluxers is dying in Mississippi.

 

They should outlaw the term "gerrymandering" because most people who have no concept of what it means.

Most people look at a irregular outline of the states districts and say that is bad. They are only looking at the physical shape and not the reason behind it. The physical shape is of absolutely no importance. What is important is the makeup of the electorate within those districts, not the shape.

The most desirable distribution of electorate would be for the electorate to be identical. For example. All farmers In that way the representative could actually represent everyone in the district. For example, if the the electorate is made up of farmers and urban dwellers, the representative can only truly representative one part of the group.

The shape by necessity would be irregular because ll the farmers do no congregate in one near little circle or square. They are in and around the urban areas with irregular borders.

 

Ironic given that classeless BLOTUS supporters GLOATED over tears being shed in 2016.

 

If you're running for re-election do you want someone with less than 50% approval endorsing you? If the majority dislike the one doing the endorsing I think the answer is no.

 

I don't know if remapping the districts was a factor or not. Voter turnout was. Evidently 400,000 additional voters turned out from last election. The Trump rally held a day before the election could be a causative factor. I think American are exhausted with Trump's fiery rhetoric, name calling, rallies, lies, and tweets. It's difficult to see how Trump could win in 2020.

 

Bullshit, grouping densely populated areas as one district and then numerous other sparsely populated areas separately serve only to disenfranchise voters.

The house is supposed to represent the voters, not whatever party can pack their boundaries with just the right amount.

Do the judges saying redraw it or we will redraw it for you also have no idea what it “really” means.
Why can the RNC not win elections without outright fraud and deceptive practices?

 

Exactly. it should represent the voters within that district not a strange shaped boundary. Please explain to me why the shape of the district makes one bit of difference.

 

Here is a pretty picture to explain it to you

 

I see your pretty pictures, but they do not explain why the shape is relevant.

 

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I wish the pubs would stop with this BS, We want to see a wrongdoer brought to justice, not an election overturned. We all realize that the only thing that happens if Trump is removed is that Pence becomes President, not Hillary. You pubs want to see a cheat win, and why am I not surprised.

 

Delaware County Pennsylvania voters ELECTED DEMOCRATS FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE CIVIL WAR!!!!!!NOW THAT"S A BIG DEAL!!!!

 

Pure unadulterated bullcrap. The lefties started their screeching literally the second Trump's win was confirmed. All they have tried to do since Nov 2016 is manufacture crisis after crisis in an attempt to oust Trump from office. All that has done is divide the country and now we are here.

No argument from me, the conservatives have and continue to gloat over their election win and I am one of them, the difference here is at no time have they marched in the streets wearing vagina costumes,

Pussyhats,

or best of all, screech at the sky.

At some point in time get your groups **** together and class it up just a bit.

 

It's a given that liberals are more radical than conservatives. Much more emotional driven. Females can show up wearing a vagina costume but I would bet if a male showed up with a penis costume he would be arrested for indecent exposure.