50% of Great Barrier Reef dead due to global warming

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/20/asia/great-barrier-reef-coral-bleaching/index.html

But coral bleaching is also "the most widespread and conspicuous impact of climate change," according to the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Events like this one in the Great Barrier Reef are effects of climate change that scientists have predicted and feared.

Coral reefs are important to ocean ecosystems and continued bleaching events from ocean warming and acidification will damage reef-based fisheries and increase exposure to coastlines from waves and storms. It also will damage economies that depend on ecotourism, such as those in Australia and the Caribbean.

 

Yeah, and the sky is falling. People who think they can change the earth are dreaming. Even back when the dinosaurs roamed the same people would have wanted them on the endangered list and tried to save them. The earth is going to do what it is going to do.

 

Great Barrier Reef suffered worst bleaching on record in 2016...

Great Barrier Reef suffered worst bleaching on record in 2016, report finds
Mon, 28 Nov 2016 - This year saw the worst-ever destruction of coral on the Great Barrier Reef, a new study finds.

 

A cognitive distortion of erroneous minimization in parable.

A cognitive distortion of "all or nothing thinking" and "over generalization with "minimization"

A cognitive distortion of "minimizing" and. " mind reading".

A cognitive distortion of "all or nothing thinking that " minimizes" desires to take action and modify human impacts.

Gee, just like a covert cognitive infiltrator would do.

 

Warming isn't the issue agricultural run off is. It has produce an over abundance of crown of thorns starfish, which are voracious coral predators. Saw it on the science channel a few years back.

 

Typical knee jerk reaction to every anomaly on earth, it's global warming. What the true believers like to hide buried somewhere deep in every hysteria driven response to every event is the likely real reason presented as a footnote. This is one of the reasons I detest this AGW fad, it is used as a scapegoat for everything and is the cowards way out of making real world changes in the way we really do pollute. It takes the eye off the ball so to speak and let's governments blame a Boogeyman for problems it would rather not address.

Exhibit A

"Reefs are also threatened by nutrient runoff from farms and lawns and from industrial chemicals, as well as overfishing of the wildlife that call the reefs home."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160321-coral-bleaching-great-barrier-reef-climate-change/

 

Loons can blame all earthly changes on climate change while they think they look superior or they have their hand out for a donation. The earth has been changing since it's creation. We live on this sphere with nature. If the barrier reef is needed nature will adjust over time. If the reef is destroyed nature will produce something similar to fill the gap. It amazes me the number of people who can't accept this simple fact of nature.

 

A cognitive distortion of "labeling" used with another distortion of "mind reading"

A misstatement. We live on this planet BECAUSE of nature and the way it has been. If we cannot accept this simple fact and allow our behaviors to alter it too far from what it has been, we naturally go extinct. It amazes me that people cannot accept this simple fact.

What nature produces to fill the gap we leave is LESS than we are because we are interrupting the period needed to evolve mentally that is required for our species to observe and maintain NATURAL balances which preserve vital elements.

Mutations are not the same as evolutions.

 

We couldn't change this planet if we wanted to. But there are those who think if we keep a cow from passing gas then we will prevent an ice age, or prevent a heat wave, or prevent a block-out of the sun, or prevent wind storms. I have no problem trying to keep our water clean, our air clean, and our lands clean, but we need to relax and let nature run it's course. Go ahead and cut down those trees, dig that coal, pump that oil, let that cow fart all it needs to. Even let the snail darter become extinct. We are not God.

 

Savin' the Great Barrier Reef gonna cost billions...

Australia to Spend Billions to Save Great Barrier Reef
December 02, 2016 — Australia will spend $1.3 billion ($965.3 million U.S.) in the next five years to improve the water quality and well-being of the Great Barrier Reef to keep the World Heritage Site from being placed on the United Nation’s “in danger” list.

See also:

Scientists record biggest ever coral die-off on Australia's Great Barrier Reef
November 29, 2016 - Warm seas around Australia's Great Barrier Reef have killed two-thirds of a 700-km (435 miles) stretch of coral in the past nine months, the worst die-off ever recorded on the World Heritage site, scientists who surveyed the reef said on Tuesday.

 

Pumping 38.2 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year is not letting nature run it's course. It is changing the environment; driving it back to a state that existed before humans could. Nature will adjust but that doesn't mean we can live with the adjustments.

 

So the main claims are knee jerk but secondary arguments are valid? That is cherry picking. You use the same source but simply reject information you don't like.

 

So you got an inside track with Mother Nature? So in a billion years Mother Nature decides humans should not inhabit earth -- I could not care less. The answer my friend is blowing in the wind.

 

No, but you claim to have some magic insight that ignores the science. And it isn't going to take a billion years. We are seeing dramatic changes now. For example, much of Asia's water supply is in immediate jeopardy due to rapidly retreating glaciers - glaciers that have been permanent throughout human history. Do you want to see WWIII? Let Asia run short on water and you will have disaster that could easily spin out of control. The problem is not just the change that occurs but how it affect us and how we respond. You think immigrants are a problem now? Wait until Mexico has water shortages, or the Southwest or Southern US for that matter. California just barely averted a disastrous water shortage. What happens when Los Angeles runs out of water; or the San Joaquin valley farmers don't have water? Those farmers are a major supplier of food for the country. Letting natures response to our influence could mean disastrous life consequences for much of humanity, including the red states.

 

Yes because the main claims are presented by true believers while causes just as possible and more plausible are buried deep in the story. It's a trick liberal journalists do too, put their opinions above the fold and give the real facts buried somewhere at the bottom of the story in a dismissive manner.

 

I feel for the people who are running around claiming the end of the human race. I only wish they could get a good night's sleep like I do.

 

I agree with the mythical 95% of scientist that believe man has some effect on the climate. I disagree with the very few government funded scientist that say our contribution to climate is a clear and present danger and our contribution to climate overwhelms all the other naturally occurring factors.

 

The scientist used to think the world was flat. Columbus had no degree. Doctors used to think if you cut a person open when the air hit their organs they would die. It's a changing world, and it changes in cycles, like all things. But the cycles are millions of years apart. The 95% scientist can't accurately predict the weather for next week.

 

It's actually 0.3% that stated that humans have caused most of the warming since 1950. The 97% is alarmist misinformation.

 

Bull

Several research papers back the 97% consensus as does the list of science academies etc. etc

So how do you explain what is happening to the great barrier reef?

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Scientists did not think the world was flat - that was right wing religious nutters

We had one on here a couple of months ago - same stubborn refusal to look at facts as the climate change deniers

 

LOL, how do you explain? Why blame global warming of course yet it comes in last when it comes to reef damage. Ag runoff, physical damage from storm surges, star of thorns, and even personal sun block. Even then there is no comprehensive investigation just spot checks. The Great Barrier Reef is so large that it is split into zones, each having a varying degree of damage from almost none to a good percent.

It is easy to blame global warming, like blaming witches for things you don't fully understand. It is the cause dujour.

 

What people fail to realize is the fact that everything is interconnected. Agricultural runoff may be the main contribution to coral bleeching. That just means agriculture is being miss managed and soil degradation is the main contribution to bleaching. Degraded soil is also a large contributor to global warming. The two are connected. And once again the solution is under our feet. New ocean dead zones are popping up all over the world. The latest is off the coast of India. These are caused by the use of synthetic fertilizers.

 

Name one.

Ocean water is basic (pH greater than 7) and a buffer solution. There is no acid bleaching of coral reefs.

 

Although this process is called acidification, it does not refer to an acid per se. Why do you continue to imply that it does??

 

Ocean ph is 8.1 and the claim is it dropped from 8.2 to 8.1. The standard deviation is larger than the claimed change.