50lb feral cat vs 50lb pitbull

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    who takes it ?
     
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    A 45lb. bobcat can take the pit imo, but likely wouldn't bother. It would have to avoid the jaw clamp, get on the back of the dog and completely tear the dorsal side up raw to dehydrate and slowly weaken the pitbull, somewhat like coyotes will dehydrate prey and stop it from getting to water. But a bobcat has the unbelievable speed to do that. The largest bobcat ever taken was 49lb.
     
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    I don't know but if we're talking even money I'd put mine on the cat.
     
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    The Pit !
     
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    My Glock 17, against any wild animal attacking my Dog.
     
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    Cat in spades. A cat the size of a big German Shepherd is a Leopard, Jaguar or Mountain Lion, that is, a mid-size man eater. Medieval wolf hunters used trained cheetahs to take on especially ferocious wolf packs that sometimes laid siege to whole cities after fattening on corpses from the Hundred Years War
     
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    Domestic cat or a lynx?

    A 50 lb domestic cat would be torn apart--why? It would be very fat and slow. The pit will be a lean mean fighting machine. The lynx would take the pit.
     
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    Male mountain lions, jaguars and leopards are in the 100-200 lb range. That's bigger than a big German Shepherd, which tend to be under 100 lbs.
     
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    The original matching was same size and cat being feral. Pound for pound cats beat dogs strengthwise, is there any argument there? A 45 lb pit is middling to small. A 45 lb wildcat is a phenomena
     
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    I've had big rangy Toms that never saw a day outdoors and I would put them up against anything. Hell, I had a mama cat that nearly killed this poor little beagle for just LOOKING at her kittens. I always keep my cats indoors but when they occasionally escape I don't really worry.
     
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    cat wins, feral or not. cats are designed to take down larger prey solo. Dogs are designed to take down prey closer to their size in a pack.

    Two pitbulls vs two cats- pitbulls win.

    Also, dogs are endurance runners, cats are sprinters. A big cat would have to surprise a dog to get it, or the dog can just evade and outdistance the cat.
     
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    The Belgian Malinois can hit a criminal at 27 mph and are the fastest, the preferred, and the most expensive police dogs, at least locally. Bobcats can run around 30 mph top end, but are much better on steep hills, in dense foliage, and on rough terrain than dogs and even coyotes.

    A band of coyotes will take any dog every time on any terrain.
     
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    A 50 lb domestic cat is not a big rangy tom. It's a feral tom that eats all the time. A 50 lb pit would destroy a 50 lb domestic cat.
     
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    Mine is about 16 years old and all of maybe 9lbs wet. She's sleeps all day to save her strength for the afternoon nap.

    She is still, however, the legendary White Dragon to the mice. She doesn't hunt them anymore because I've told her not to, but she remains a source of stories they tell their grandchildren
     
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    I had my brother watch my 8lb cat while I was out of town..
    The first day, when he got home from work, the cat gt out of the back room and killed his 70lb pit..
    True story..
     
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    I'll bet you don't have a mouse problem at all
     
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    Cat.
     
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    I would believe that when I personally saw it. I have seen pit bull terriers kill the hell out of house cats over the years. A cat would kill by strangulation, and a house cat's mouth is not near large enough to get the kind of grip it would need to take a dog down. The thing about pit bull terriers is they are bred for gamness. Not giving up. Cats will flee like hell up a tree if injured, or even it not injured.

    I think you guys were smoking something you should probably leave alone.

    A house cat is a killing machine, but for mice and birds. Not for larger prey. Not a large enough mouth. Duh. Anyone who has been around dogs and cats knows this. Apparently there is a huge lack of experience posting on this topic.
     
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    Cute! I have too many cats right now but only because I foster for a rescue.
     
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    You can't have too many cats, just a shortage of litter boxes. Cat's are natural caretakers of your property, they treat it as theirs because it is.
     
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    Didn't you see the viral YouTube where the cat rescued the child?



    A cat is not going to HUNT a dog, that's true, but I have heard that a cat that stands it ground and fights can usually survive, The problem is their instincts do not often support that behavior, and that is their undoing
     
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    Sure they will stand their ground, sometimes. Yet I have seen so many chased up trees by just dogs. I once saw a pit bull terrier kill a female cat, and then her kittens. The cat never stood a chance, but this was the pit bull terrier that has a long breeding for gameness, which is never giving up until they literally die. I don't like these kind of dogs mind you but used to be friends with a breeder of fighting pit bull terriers off of an old Boudreux line from Louisiana, down in SoSo Ms. Any of his dogs up against a house cat means a dead cat. And that is why I would have to see a cat kill a pit bull terrier before I could ever believe it. The domestic cat just does not have the tools to do that folks, and anyone who has been around dogs and cats knows this. Well obviously some of us don't know it.
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And a bear is probably going to kill the pit bull, until you have a few of them, and then they hunt bears.

    Of course, a dragon will take down all of them at once :p
     
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    They all have different personalities and I like to discover them to find a good fit for an adopter.
     

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