61 dead Palestinians.... why did Trump do this?

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't blame you.

    Actively defending Hamas must be exhausting for you.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why? It is self-evident. I do not root for Palestinians. I root for Israel.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go for it. Give'm guns :hug:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter of one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk.

    His contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and abstruse learning are also very out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greeks and Romans followed and made a vast noise, and they were gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, and have vanished.

    The Jew saw them all, survived them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmaties, of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert but aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jews; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality? "

    Mark Twain - September 1897
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Leader of free world should not try to remain neutral. America comes first, friends and allies comes second. Palestinians are neither.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :applause:
     
  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Myself, I have no hate whatsoever for Jews or Palestines. I do feel contempt for those who draw us into the conflict only because they can't stomach the only possible solution: two states. Those who want to wipe the other side 'off the face of the Earth" That includes Netanyahu and Hamas ... and Trump. But they will not always be in power. We just need to wait for the right combination of players....
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It has always worked two ways! Problem is that Trump has managed to make it three ways.

    You seem to think that criticism of Trump's gloating Party associated with the move, means support for Hamas. Where you got that, I have no idea.
     
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    To which you provide no alternative.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not nearly as much fun as Trump had killing the other 11.

    Did you say "admitted Hamas members"? How bad did they torture them after they died to get them to admit it?

    That and your "defending Hamas" idiocy show once more how you and your lack of arguments are always good for a laugh.
     
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    You would have to ask Hamas since it is the Hamas politburo that announced it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't ridicule yourself. It's even in the Bible.
     
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    It was simply an opening celebration.
     
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    Here is a little gift for all our DP friends.

    Vote Democrat!
    The Party of Hamas, Gun Control, Impeachment, Tax Hikes, and Open Borders!


     
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    If it means more dead Palestian murderers then I am all for it. Keep posting those Tweets. I have no sympathy for the violent, murderous, Nazi allies.
     
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    So far that appears to be their platform.
     
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    Oh so 61 insurgents are killed by the military and that's not war what is it then?
     
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    Palestinians we're never displaced because Palestine isn't a country.
     
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    Most of them now came from other countries.
     
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    And it is a very powerful message.
    The DP needs to really hammer it home before November. ;-)
     
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    Gosh, don’t give them any ideas. Wink, wink, say no more.
     
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    So the people who are out protesting for the Hamas backed government are not responsible for backing Hamas .... Yet Trump is responsible for all the deaths?

    This type of over the top rhetoric really does turn a lot of people off from the argument you are trying to make. If you want to say it was a bad decision, fine. But when you flat out say "Donald Trump is responsible for killing people!" a massive portion of the American middle simply shrugs and looks away. It's really hard to take such a comment seriously.

    As has been shown, half a dozen presidents have put this up on their list of "things to do" including Clinton and Obama. The fact that Trump acted seems to be such a Trigger for a lot of people and it is a huge turn off. Just seems like more of the same over sensationalism that has been going on in US politics.
     
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    Yeah?

    Who was the Palestinian state leader before ww1 and after ww1?
     
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    Yes! Either that, or his middle-East advisers are all complete morons. Probably both...

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    And Trump CHOSE to taunt them and ridicule them by holding a gloating Party. And on Nakba Day, no less.

    I got news for you... when you grab that kid's lollipop and throw it on the ground, you are responsible for the child's feelings. You had it coming if he kicks you in the ankle. If you walk into a Gay Bar, and start telling gay jokes, you are responsible for ridiculing human beings. If you go to Mexico, and start spewing anti-Mexican remarks.... well... you get the picture. It doesn't excuse their reactions, of course. You can still file a police report and get them arrested after they beat you to a pulp. But you are an idiot if you didn't know what was coming. You still bear a large part of the responsibility for the episode. And when you leave the hospital, you might have to pay for part of the damage your skull caused when it repeatedly hit the concrete wall.

    So, you see... there are two problems that are very common on the right.

    One is that they are unable to visualize anything that is not presented to them as black vs white. The fact that responsibility can be attributed in many parts: protesters who stormed the fence in Gaza. Hamas that instigated them. The Israeli solders that indiscriminately shot live ammo at the protesters. Whoever gave the order. And, our idiot President who caused the whole episode when he could have just quietly made the move without endangering as many lives.

    The other is that they don't even make an effort to understand such complex matters when it's not convenient to their "beloved leader"
     
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    Liberal stupidity:

    Guns kill people by themselves with no one shooting them.

    Venezuela is a successful socialist state.

    Trump killed palestinians.
     
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