7 Deceptive Claims Jimmy Kimmel Made About Guns in One Monologue

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    This is what I thought too...
     
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    Must be why the police, in shootings within that range, miss more than they make hits with handguns.
     
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    Huh?

    This in no way invalidates reality/my post, but if people choose to be hysterically and irrationally fearful and angry, I hope they can get their grief kicks doing this without shredding the Constitution.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    And why the military hits with every single shot when they are in firefights because they have rifles, right?
     
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    They use rifles for close quarter combat.
     
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    And still miss a lot. Might have something to do with the fact that under high stress combat conditions people just tend to miss and nothing to do with Rifle/handgun.
     
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    Of course, but a rifle is much more effective in stopping an assailant than a handgun is.
     
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    It is as if Sen. Schumer has joined his team of writers.
     
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    No it’s not. At short range, a handgun round with hollow points has far more stopping power than a high velocity small diameter rifle round.
     
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    Kimmel is not poking fun or doing parodies, which would be fine, he is making unabashed political speeches.
     
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    Again what I thought; are the cops really so ill-trained with firearms that we see the kind of bystander injuries we do with LEO handgun use?
     
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    It’s not necessarily about “Ill-trained” (although police marksmanship qualifications and required range time are pathetically low for most of the country). High stress conditions in which shootings happen make it more likely that you make little mistakes like jerking the trigger or not breathing right or any of the other tiny errors that can cause a shot to miss by inches. Add in a moving target and it’s that much harder.
     
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    So in these cases it's not rifle vs handgun, but any gun vs no gun that makes the difference in bystander injury; some of the stuff that happens in NYC - yeesh. :eek:
     
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    Absolutely. I am 100% in favor of people having guns for self-defense and defense of their homes and families. But arguing you need an AR-15 or an SKS or a Mini-15 or something else like that for Defense is absurd.

    They are toys. Plain and simple. People get them because they like shooting them. They aren’t very efficient for hunting or defense and the whole “defend yourself against the government” argument is absurd.
     
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    There is another common denominator besides the evil guns, the actual shooter, that's what liberals seem to ignore. Whether guns are purchased legally, stolen, or otherwise obtained, there stand millions and millions of innocent gun owners you'd see suffer for the misdeeds of a few. Most conservatives do not take losing their rights lightly, why would throw them away so lightly? Who do you think you are to infringe on my rights because of your fears?
     
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    What's with the liberal crap.. 58 people are dead .. 500 more wounded.. some critically so the death toll may go up. Do you think all those people were Republicans?

    No one is demanding that Americans give up hunting, skeet shooting or handguns.
     
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    while deliberate misunderstanding can be the bedrock of hilarious comedy, it does require the application of a modicum of wit.
     
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    No its apparent that gun sales spike from a well understood human motivation - FEAR.

    And everyone needs 40 or 50 long guns and 5,000 rounds to protect themselves these days because the government can/t

    And suppressors are absolutely needed for protection.


    Yep thats it.
     
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    Its not conservatives calling for gun control, and if you noticed those who were calling for increased infringements on our rights didn't wait for the bodies to cool before doing so. I did not imply any political affiliation of the victims, that's you projecting, not me.

    No has the right to demand infringements to others' rights unless its through the amendment process. What we are seeing is liberal trash trying to evoke emotional responses while people are still processing the event at hand. It has become typical of the way liberals do things, attempt to exploit any tragedy for their own sick purposes. Everytime people actually take a step back they come to the right conclusion, which is not to infringe on the rights of millions because of the wrongdoing of a few; much to many liberals dismay...
     
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    And, when Dems had the Presidency and super-majorities in Congress, they didn't bother to pass gun control. So, once again with these folks, its all lies. If they really wanted it, they could have had it.

    This was likely terrorism and it took 72 minutes to breach that door. This is when the sensible focus will lie. How do we respond more quickly to these kinds of situations. How do we more quickly puts guns on these lethal actors?

    How can crowds more quickly respond, more effectively. And this crowd, for being caught flat footed, untrained, unprepared, quickly responded and I think careful study will show that they did so much more effectively than most. They immediately sought cover and began trauma care and transport, in the midst of hails of gunfire.

    This is who we are in middle America, especially in the Country Music culture.
     
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    Some are calling for gun control.. For starters they could have a computerized data base for gun registration.. instead of a card file in Martinsville, WV. The single worker there gets a thousand requests a week from police depts all over the country to trace gun ownership.
     
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    Registration data bases are unconstitutional. If you want them, amend the Constitution. That would not help matters anyway. Its a typical liberal response, but it does absolutely nothing during or prior to an actual event, like a mass shooting. All it does is set up emotion based talking points for liberals to exploit after an event.

    None of the proposed measures that are being talked about would have prevented Las Vegas, which makes it even more heartless and evil for liberals to exploit the tragedy for their own sick ends...
     
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    What does the constitution say about gun registration or car registration?

    I can find the name and ownership of any aircraft in the US based on its tail number.. from my living room.

    Liberals aren't exploiting this latest massacre... YOU are.
     

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