70 years NATO birthday ...

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  1. Mandelus

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    NATO is now 70 years old ...

    https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-at-70-where-next/

    70 years is a good age to male a final retirement I think, because in the meantime, she has indeed made herself not only superfluous ... she has become a platform to be a dangerous threat for peace.

    And not to forget ... of course the idiotic theme of the 2% spending in the defense, one of the favorite topics of the boss-jerk in the White House, who does not even know what is in the NATO contract and what was agreed in 2014 in Wales! Because ... if he knew, he would just keep his mouth shut and not so much bullshit talk to the issue!

    But we know ... he has an obsession with hatred for Germany, because a German car on the 5th Avenue already brought him eye cancer as he once said in the election campaign.

    But in the meantime this is just the legitimate and fact based reaction of Abgela Merkel and of Ursula von der Leyen (German Defense Minister) to Trump's threats to withdraw from Europe, question Article 5, and call NATO itself obsolete etc. ... as well the complaining about North Stream:


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    Well....Happy 70 for NATO! Still going strong, and has grown to more members....including former WP .....that ended up on trash heap of history, and those members quite happy to be in it.....and vatniks asses have been on fire ever since:)). Even constructing a new building almost the size of Pentagon in Poland, right under Roosha nose.

    With Trump even approving this, even though hes not crazy about NATO.:)).
     
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    It's time to cut the Krauts and NATO loose. I swear Germany and Germans are the whiniest little bitches. Defend yourselves again, with your new muslim army.
     
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    Yep ... you are welcome, because the Americans are rated to be the most impudent and arrogant people and being masters of lies!
     
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    We being "masters of lies".....Uhhhh, no, I think that distinction goes to the Soviets/Russkis....they wrote the book on it:)). Pravda says so!

    Go cozy up to "impudent" rooski....he'd try to steal your eyeballs if you weren't looking,LOL.
     
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    This seems a post that's short on content and long on vitriol. Look, I get it; Orange Man Bad. So your country should withdraw from NATO and finally be free of a "most impudent and arrogant people and being masters of lies!"
     
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    There is also another anniversary this year - 80 years since the beginning of WW2.

    :cheerleader:
     
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    If our foolish yank trash friends knew what they were talking about, that'd be great, but unfortunately reality, facts, and accurate numbers are not taught in the new world, so one has to forgive them for being ignorant and clueless.
     
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    Let's see, the Germans are the cause of both World Wars and millions of deaths, but now they are the know-it-alls. Got it.

    When I'm in Europe, I'm always amazed at the level of dumbassery on the MSM.
     
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    We never tried to take over the world....twice.
     
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    Disband NATO, Germany already distrust America, NATO is broken.
     
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    Lies.

    Lies coming from a German.

    A German who's arrogant to bite the hand that feeds.
    Imprudent enough to think Europe is where the sun shines and can do no wrong (while doing wrong everywhere it puts itself *Trade *Democracy *Defense)... Remember VW cheating emissions tests to cheat their way into markets; yet you hate on America, the people who liberated your people (from your people) in WWII.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...eloader/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.caddcb0624ee
    Germany, Biggest Freeloaders In NATO.
     
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    After President Reagan won the Cold War and after President Bush (41) and President Gorbachev wrapped up some unfinished business like making promises that the Clinton administration broke, everyone was asking what was NATO's mission now since NATO's mission was to kill commie soldiers ? In particular Russian soldiers.

    The vast majority of Americans in the early 1990's thought that after American troops occupying Western Europe for fifty years that we would start bringing our troops home and slowly withdrawing from NATO.

    So who was really behind restarting the Cold War ?

    The Clinton administration.
    Madeleine Albright Clinton's Secretary of State.
    Liberals who were really pissed off that the Soviet Union lost the Cold War.
    Neoconservatives.
    And the military industrial complex.
     
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    So NATO is officially an old fart... no wonder they get lost all the time and can't find their way home

    ps. my apologies to other 70 year olds... I'm sure you find your way just fine
     
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    You are absolutely right!
    It’s time to liberate Germany and kick it out of NATO!
     
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    During WWI the German Empire never tried to take over the world. face palm
     
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    And you think they would have stopped had they won?

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    NATO is a threat to the world and peace. With the promotion of the US and NATO, lots of military interventions have started in the world- Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya to name a few.
    Politicians in Bundestag start to understand it and talk about it: https://diefreiheitsliebe.de/politik/die-nato-ist-ein-sicherheitsrisiko-fuer-die-welt/
    So soon your army will get away from Germany.
     
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    Yes, US is the master of lies and run by bunch of ******* politicians most of the time.
     
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    What a nonsense! US army even did not get to Berlin to liberate Germans from Hitler... What are you talking about?
    What a nonsense! US army even did not reach Berlin during WW2 to liberate Germans from Hitler...
     
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    Correct ... and this because USA betrayed Germany and insulted us!

    Fact # 01
    There is no contractual NATO duty that 2% of GDP must be invested in the defense!
    Anyone who claims otherwise must prove otherwise ... and will fail!
    Conclusion: Trump is an insolent liar and cheater!

    Fact # 02
    In 2002, later in 2014, it was decided that all NATO members should meet the 2% by 2024 ... I stress: should not have to, BUT! Do we have the year 2024 today? No!!!
    Conclusion: Trump is an insolent liar and cheater!

    Fact # 03
    Since 2014, the year when it was decided with the 2% until 2024, Germany has increased its defense spending by more than 40%. That's not even the US has made such an increase, let alone anyone else in NATO who does not have an army the size of the LAPD!
    Conclusion: Trump is a liar and cheater!

    Fact # 04
    Germany does not have the financial need for a 2% budget of its armed forces! So why should we waste taxpayers' money that is not needed by the armed forces? Because the US wants it with her Lord of Lies and a few others? Ridiculous!
    Conclusion: Trump is a liar and cheater!

    Fact # 05
    So far, Article 5 has happened only 1 time in NATO, and it was triggered by the US after 9/11, and everyone did their duty, including my country. Now we get to know the typical, American ingratitude ... worse ... our commitment at your request has been ridiculed by you, including not omly a few dead German soldiers ... remember, aside to Kosovo, Afghanistan was the first German war effort since 1945! Do you seriously believe that we do your insolence shruf off and forget?
    Conclusion: Trump is a liar and cheater!

    Fact # 06
    You claim that you pay too much for NATO. Really? I do not think so! On the contrary, you are doing too little for the privileges and the leadership role you claim ... almost nothing!
    Because you absolutely wanted to play in the ME, you simply transferred your tasks to others because you no longer had the capacity for the NATO duties free.
    Conclusion: Trump is a liar and cheater!

    Fact # 07:
    After the US, which alone has 62% of all world military spending (ridiculous!) And UK, Germany is in third place the most money in NATO for his military!
    Only ... do we have and do we need any meaningless aircraft carriers? Have we distributed bases all over the planet? Do we have to prescribe to half the world what is right or wrong and then give military force to the whole thing? Anything that eats tons of taxpayer money? No!
    And why should we do all this against our interests ... because then we are again the bad Germans anyway and the comparison comes to the rearmament of Hitler!
    Conclusion: Trump is a liar and cheater!

    Fact # 08
    Is Russia really a threat? NO!
    Yes ... the Ukraine, Georgia, the Crimea, Syria ... that will of course come now, but that's ridiculous. The US has done much worse things than Russia here and nobody gets upset about that, no, that can not have been bad because USA does not do anything bad!
    What is the difference between the criminal and Nazi like attack on Iraq in 2003 and the annexation of Crimea by Russia?
    Conclusion: Trump is a hypocritical liar and cheater!


    General Conclusion:
    Germany is a sovereign state with its own interests, which fulfills its duties and which the US has nothing to command. The US just has to shut up - point!
    You want to dissolve the NATO, pull out from Europe to give a crap to Article 5, etc. in the US? Nice ... make it, pull off and shut up!

    The US does virtually nothing for NATO and its allies, insisting on its privileges, abusing the US bases in Europe for its international interests that have nothing to do with NATO, simply relinquishing obligations to the allies because the US considers them as Annoying ... and then talk about the ungrateful Germans!

    Sorry ... "Ami go home" and first learn to behave respectfully before you Americans can speak of gratitude !!!
     
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    neither did the germans though
    ww1 was a diplomatic ****up started by Austria/serbia and Russia
    ww2 they tryd to take over poland and russia and took a bunch of others along the way(what did you expect from a nutcase and drugsaddict like hitler(may he burn in hell regardless))

    british used to control 25% of the globe so they got closer to that
     
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    not sure if sarcastic or serious
    but the americans are known to be
    1 arrogant
    2 fat
    3 deceitful so definatly got a rep for that(russians to however)
    4 obsessed with some weird stuff about gay/transgender (who came up with transgender bathrooms ? definatly not the germans)
     
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    Sure ;)

    Let me play the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin just for you.
     
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    Omaha Beach, what, those Americans who died there died for nothing?
    How dumb can you be to forget about the allied invasion and D Day?

    Gives a **** about Berlin? Terrible place, terrible culture, but if it wasn't for America and UK, there'd be no Berlin Wall and it all would be Soviet.

    I believe "Thank you" is in order.
     
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