82% of Americans say religious freedom is key to ‘healthy American society’

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  1. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    But do you really believe that?

    Should a gay person who gets a job as a baker be forced to bake a cake with a man and a woman on it which says “marriage is only between a man and a woman” or lose his job?

    Should a vegan who works for a grocery store as a manager be forced to go to the butcher department and cut meat because the meat department is short staffed or lose her job?

    Should an atheist at a marketing group be forced to create a marketing campaign for the Westboro Baptist Church or lose his job?
     
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    I’ll put my IQ up against yours any day of the week homeboy.

    https://www.test-iq.org/

    Hell I’ll even pay for em as long as you post your results up here.

    What do ya say? Just a lowly, stupid Christian here questioning your claims.
     
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    Then WHAT were you ATTEMPTING to say with the FOLLOWING content of YOURS:

    How was the GPA DIFFERENCE between SECULAR and RELGIOUS students NOT something that YOU posted on that issue of EDUCATION?

    :roflol:

    Kindly REFRAIN from PROJECTING your own issues onto others.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    I said very clearly students actively involved in religion outperform students not involved in religion. I said nothing about secular vs. religious schools. Nothing. I provided hard data showing students involved in religious practice on average have a 0.3 higher GPA when in the SAME SCHOOL as students not practicing religion. It’s all very simple.

    Students are not synonymous with schools, my man. Students are individuals and schools are institutions. See the difference?
    Yes it is sad you can not tell the difference between a student and an institution. As I said, you could have used some time in a mosque or something. Then I wouldn’t have to waste my time explaining the difference between students and institutions of learning. LOL
     
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    Absolutely. When you apply for a job you agree to do the work required for the position. If you owned a bakery and hired a person to be a baker and all of a sudden they refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple where does that leave the employer? If it is a large bakery maybe they could have someone else do it but if you are the only baker what are they suppose to do? Turn away the business? Why should the business owner suffer for your beliefs.
     
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    I just remembered an old story. About 20 years ago prior to graduating from university and applying for jobs a friend of mine came to me a said he had just gotten a job interview but he found out the company does a lot business developing online gambling platforms. His beliefs left him torn whether he could work developing these applications. He ended up going to the interview but he made his beliefs clear to the employer. He said the interviewer was very friendly and appreciated his honesty. He didn't end up receiving an offer from the company but I think he handled the situation well. If you are a baker or whatever position and your role may involve work and duties that go against your religion, you should make that clear to the employer before the taking the job. If they are able to accommodate your restriction then that would be fine. If they cannot or do not want to bother then both parties can move on.
     
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    They might mind, c ould be offended but they understand the concept of freedom of thought, religion and conscience. If a law was attempted to force people to sign up to a church or the government attempted to shut down an atheist gathering on public park they would be the first to rise a cry about it. It's not Christians trying to shut down freedom on the public square. Or rioting and causing death and destruction when someone puts Christ in a bottle of urine.
     
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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that you CANNOT substantiate your own BOGUS allegation.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    I actually agree with this.

    But what do you think would happen if a white guy fired a black woman for refusing to bake a cake for a KKK member?
     
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    Can you quote me where I said ANYTHING about secular vs. religious based education? No you can not. You are the one with unsubstantiated bogus allegations. Go ahead, quote me. LOL
     
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    I think the firing would be totally justified. If the employer is willing to live with the consequences of doing business with a KKK member it is not the baker's role to decide on the clientele. You are hired to do a job. Unless the job is asking you to do something illegal or violates your employment contract, you perform your work or you can quit. If my employer asked me to break the law I would refuse, (and probably quit), if they asked me to do something I wasn't hired to do like mop the floor, (not part of my job description), I would refuse. (Actually in the old days when our company was a start up everyone did everything but you can see the point of my example). If they asked me to work on a project developing an application for someone who is a KKK member I may find it distasteful but I have no choice but to do it, because that is what I was hired to do.
     
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