9/11 - The Legal Initiative

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It doesn't seem that way. Operation Mockingbird and tight corporate ownership have made mainstream media only a source of propaganda.

    There are quite a few good alternative media with good investigative reporters, but they struggle financially.
     
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    I wouldn't label these as "investigative reporters" but certainly investigators reporting:

    https://www.ae911truth.org/
    http://www.consensus911.org/

    And other similar investigators. Without these people we would know a whole lot less about what really happened on 9/11.
     
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    I'm not sure how this will play out with respect to the Petition for a Special Grand Jury Investigation into the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center towers on 9/11 but Barr claims that US Attorney Geoffrey Berman is stepping down and Berman says it's not true and he's refusing to step down.

    Manhattan US attorney, who was investigating Trump allies, refuses to step down

    Manhattan U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman, who runs the office that prosecuted Michael Cohen and is investigating Rudy Giuliani, said Friday he would remain in his powerful post despite an announcement by Attorney General William Barr that he was resigning.

    The head-spinning war of words erupted late in the evening between Barr, the nation’s top law enforcement officer, and Berman, who is overseeing investigations into Trump associates.

    Barr said in a press release that Berman was “stepping down,” without further explanation.

    Berman responded in his own news release — issued via his office — that Barr’s statement that he was stepping down was not true.


    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...4xygIW1nBVAelqzvWJTOpaH1kGawUtQemNwb9WsaOOANc
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It won't change much Bob. US Attorneys are notoriously yes men, political sycophants, not principled individuals.

    What Berman has neglected his successor will also neglect. The rule of law is dead in the US.
     
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    Agreed but legally speaking the Mandamus lawsuit names William Barr and Geoffrey Berman as the defendants. And it was Berman who did not comply with his own letter stating he would comply with the petition for the grand investigation, not anyone else. So he is the responsible party. I was looking for more of the legal/technical aspects of the case. There is nothing about it at the Lawyers' Committee website so far. Note Berman has not stepped down yet and I don't know if he will or must step down as a result of Trump firing him.
     
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    Oh, he's gone.

    The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York forgets Trump is his boss

    The Swamp Creatures believe they own the administrative state, but Bill Barr is taking them out one at a time, even if they don’t want to go.

    The Judiciary Act of 1789 created the office of the Attorney General. Only in 1870 did the legislature create the Department of Justice. It is an administrative entity, which means that the president is the Chief Executive Officer. The people of the United States are the shareholders who appoint the Chief Executive. if they don’t like his management style, at the end of his term, they can elect someone different.

    The US Electorate picked President Trump as our chosen Big Boss, the employees in the Department of Justice serve at his pleasure. Trump and his agent, the Attorney General, have ultimate control over hiring and firing. Members of the swamp, however, no longer believe that they are constrained by statutory or constitutional limitations. They believe that their jobs are permanent benefices of the type that made the British government one of the most corrupt in the world at the end of the 18th century.

    During the Obama administration, the Southern District exerted itself to prosecute people who made Obama uncomfortable. Famously, it went after Dinesh D’Souza, a ferocious Obama critique, for a campaign finance contribution issue in an amount so small no one had previously been hounded into prison for such a sum. Of late, the same district has dedicated itself to harassing Trump and anyone connected with him.

    Attorney General Barr announced that Berman would be stepping down so that the President could nominate Jay Clayton to serve in his place. Berman announced his refusal.

    Barr announced that if Berman wasn’t going to resign with dignity, he was fired.

    Barr schooled Berman for failing to understand that he serves at the President’s pleasure.

    Barr also reminded Berman that the cases he currently supervises can continue perfectly well without him under new management. Berman finally got the message and quit.
     
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    WHY THE DIRTY BASTARD WAS RIGHTEOUSLY FORCED OUT

    In January, the FISA court issued an order regarding the insufficient predication for the spying applications the DOJ and FBI submitted to the court. Under pressure, the FBI agreed “to sequester all collection the FBI acquired” as a result of the wrongfully obtained FISA orders. This sequestration meant that no one within the various U.S. attorneys’ offices could conduct the reviews, necessitating John Durham’s appointment.

    Barr has the results of that investigation, and that these results extend well beyond the sequestration. To the extent they reveal problems, Barr is systematically removing U.S. attorneys who engaged in wrongful conduct, including attorneys in the Southern District of New York.

    Barr has eight USAO's working on an internal investigation; and all of their discoveries.... Along with Durham, who has been working on this over a year, and all of his evidence.

    Barr has nuclear-grade ammunition on the corruption of these bastards.
     
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    Thanks for all that.

    Yes but how does that work in cases where Berman is named as a Defendant in a Mandamus lawsuit? I believe a Mandamus case can only be brought against a state actor acting in his capacity as a state actor, correct?

    The corrupt weeding out the corrupt. What else is new? New would be The People weeding out the corrupt.
     
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    The Left/Swamp, strangely enough, is accusing the AG of interfering in the work of the Department he is sworn to run. Trump is the resounding choice of The Electorate and he is weeding out folks through his appointed, Senate confirmed, AG.

    Berman said he was determined to stay on so that the SDNY’s investigations would “move forward without delay or interruption.” As they “pursue justice without fear or favor,” SDNY prosecutors could count on him, he added, “to ensure that this Office’s important cases continue unimpeded.”

    Berman did not claim anyone had actually tried to impede the cases; he implied that this might happen if he were not there to ward it off. That’s a bit melodramatic.
     
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    Without delay? It's been 2 years since the Petition for a Special Grand Jury investigation into the destruction of the 3 towers on 9/11 was filed. It's been almost a year and a half since Berman sent a letter claiming he'll comply with 18 U.S.C. § 3332 and so far not a hint that a grand jury has ever examined the evidence. In fact that scumbag is fighting tooth and nail not to have to reveal that he did anything with respect to the Petition.

    What kind of "justice" was pursued with respect to 9/11? What about with respect to the 9/11 families who lost loved ones on 9/11? What is more important than 9/11 to the "Office"? This is after all the Southern District of New York, it encompasses all of lower Manhattan where 3,000 people were murdered and another 3,000+ died from the after effects and where there was an enormous destruction of property. And where the event precipitated a genocide claiming hundreds of thousands, perhaps more than one million innocent lives. What is a more important case than that? Why should anyone count on Berman for anything?

    What or who is the coward afraid of?
     
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    Some news was posted today by the Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry.

    Dear Friends,

    We at the Lawyers’ Committee hope you and your loved ones are well during these most unusual times.

    As a result of the roller coaster of events that have unfolded throughout the world the normal flow of activities for all of us have been altered.

    The Lawyers’ Committee is presently working on two major projects which will be launched in the near future, and is expecting a ruling shortly by a federal court judge on whether our Grand Jury Petition concerning explosions, incendiaries and controlled demolition used to destroy the World Trade Center Towers will be honored.

    1. A large-scale Freedom of Information Campaign involving over twenty FOIAs will be sent to government agencies requesting documents which will be used in developing Grand Jury Petitions for all 9/11 related crimes scenes.

    2. The Announcement of a new Grand Jury Petition which has been worked on for the past few months by the Lawyers’ Committee concerning specific 9/11 crimes never properly investigated or prosecuted, and which will be presented to the United States Attorney later this Summer.

    3. We are now waiting for a decision from a federal court judge regarding our Grand Jury Petition submitted to United States Attorney Berman in the Southern District of New York. We have asked the judge for some indication that a Grand Jury regarding the evidence of explosives, incendiaries and controlled demolition used to destroy the World Trade Center Towers has been convened or to order the United States Attorney to present the evidence to the Grand Jury, if he has not already done so. The United States Attorney has filed papers saying that the co-plaintiffs have no standing.

    The complaint filed on behalf of the co-plaintiffs by Mick Harrison, the Lawyers’ Committee Litigation Director, and co-counsel, John O’Kelly, and the motion to dismiss filed by the United States Attorney should be decided by the judge shortly, perhaps this month.

    Making things even more interesting, if not confusing, is a directive for United States Attorney Berman’s removal as United States Attorney for the Southern District in New York. The Lawyers’ Committee has not yet discussed the significance of a new United States Attorney on the present lawsuit.

    Stay Healthy and Think Positively.

    David R. Meiswinkle
    President/Executive Director
    Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry


    https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/happy-solstice-day/

    I'm really happy to see that the Lawyers' Committee is not deterred by the possibility that their 2 major lawsuits may be dismiss on the phony lack of standing grounds. What they're saying is that they're not addressing the merits of the case and they're also saying that the 9/11 families have no standing to demand a legitimate full investigation of what really happened to cause the death of their loved ones. So what they're really doing is using any legal excuse to avoid addressing the facts about 9/11. Both Barr and Berman have been named as co-defendants in the Grand Jury case despite that Barr wants Berman out. And Barr has been named a defendant in the FBI case. A despicable bunch of complicit criminals.
     
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    Saul Goodman ...
     
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    Dear Friends:

    Happy Fourth of July !

    Our revolutionary fore father Thomas Paine once wrote,

    “THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph…”

    The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry plays a unique historic role in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Unlike any other organization we are vigorously addressing the horrible 9/11 crimes through investigations and the creation of Grand Jury petitions. We want to hold accountable those responsible for the murder of the innocent. We are uniquely qualified to pursue this goal because we have gathered a remarkable team of attorneys and other professionals with the critical expertise and the patriotic passion to carry out the mission.

    We will create five Grand Jury petitions concerning 9/11 crimes which will be presented to the United States Attorney, one of which has already been submitted in New York City, and the others are being developed. The list includes:

    1.The World Trade Center attacks
    2. Anthrax attacks
    3. Government Misconduct/Obstruction, before, during and after 9/11
    4. Shanksville
    5.The Pentagon attack.


    Skipping ...

    The Lawyers’ Committee is presently in litigation battles with the Federal Government in New York City in an action concerning the mandatory responsibility of the United States Attorney to present evidence submitted to him by the Lawyers’ Committee of explosions, incendiaries and controlled demolition used to destroy the World Trade Center. Both the United States Attorney of the Southern District in New York and the Attorney General are being sued. Of course, the main stream media has completely ignored our efforts, but we will continue to fight.

    In Washington D.C. another battle is being waged in the Federal Court with a lawsuit against the FBI for failure to follow a Congressional mandate under the 9/11 review Commission to update Congress and therefore the People by assessing and reporting on 9/11 evidence not originally considered by the 9/11 Commission. Again,the main street media has completely ignored our efforts, but we will continue to fight.

    We are in three Freedom of Information battles presently with the government to recover public records which will help us in developing Grand Jury Petitions. While the Government has been obstructive, we are about to launch this month, twenty new Freedom of Information requests which cover a multitude of 9/11 related crimes and will assist us in developing our Grand Jury petitions, but we will continue to fight.

    We have been working beneath the surface for months on our second Grand Jury Petition submission which will be announced shortly. Two Grand Jury Petitions concerning 9/11 crimes and government failures to properly investigate will then be submitted to the United States Attorney for Grand Jury presentations. These Grand Jury petitions with their attached Exhibits create an historic record contrary to the “official” narrative, but we will continue the fight.

    With accountability for the crimes of 9/11 we will also witness and welcome the restoration of the United States Constitution, respect for civil liberties and peace with other nations.


    Skipping ...

    The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry asks you this 4th of July to renew your will to fight for your freedom.

    Thank you,

    David R. Meiswinkle
    President/Executive Director
    Lawyers’Committee for 9/11 Inquiry


    https://www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/volunteers-of-america#continue
     
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    Fire Commissioner Christopher Gioia on the official 9/11 fairy tale.

     
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