9/11 - The Legal Initiative

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  1. Shinebox

    Shinebox Well-Known Member

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    that's it Bob, change the subject and don't address the lie in the vid I pointed out ...

    the whole truth movement just stinks with lies ... trying to keep the delusion going ...
     
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    @3:28 ... While speaking with an environmental group ... I heard someone say "there were bombs placed in the building"

    really Mick? ... did you ask that person for more clarity or how they knew this? ... who is this person that made the claim? ... you're a pretty shitty lawyer if you didn't follow up on that claim ...
     
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    I really feel awful for you Shiner that you're so terrified about this. You do understand that none of the above matters for the purpose of presenting the case to a Special Grand Jury. And I didn't address any of it because it is totally irrelevant at this stage. But if and when it is recommended by the Special Grand Jury that the case should move ahead and the US Attorney signs off on it, you certainly can speak to the prosecutor in charge and relay your very deep concerns to him/her, especially the part about the "whole truth movement stinks and the delusion". I'm sure he/she will jump on those issues first thing because of their critical importance.

    But if the US Attorney decides not to sign off, the next step is a Petition for Writ of Mandamus. And I'm 100% sure none of your concerns will be included in that petition either because they're also irrelevant, not to mention really childishly silly. Just hug that teddy bear real tight at night whenever you get the terrifying feeling there are "troofers" hiding under your bed.
     
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    they have no case Bobby ... just a bunch of hearsay ... I would love to see the actual evidence of thermitic material as claimed by Harrison, not to mention the claim of bombs planted ... is Harrison afraid to show his hand? ...

    I'm sure you saw the donation link on the "lawyers" website ... how sad is that Bobby? ... lawyers live large ... Harrison doesn't give a flying **** and will never have influence of convening a grand jury ... he's just making a buck from troofer tools ...

    how sad to watch this carnival of delusion ...
     
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    1. Even if all they have is "a bunch of hearsay", it's all a Special Grand Jury needs to recommend going ahead with the case.

    2. If you actually read the petition, it includes 42 exhibits, facts, studies, portions of the NIST reports, many eyewitness claims, expert witness claims, etc. Feel free to look around.

    https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/exhibits-index-grand-jury-petition/

    Grand Juries often have only a tiny fraction of the evidence being presented in this case and often recommend proceeding with a case on very little. But this is 9/11 we're talking about, not just a run of the mill potential felony.

    3. Your opinion is irrelevant. The only opinion that is relevant is the one from the Special Grand Jury. But I am so sorry they will not consult you though. It must feel terrible to be left out and not be able to scream "troofer" all day long.

    What you want to see or not is also irrelevant. What the Special Grand Jury sees and wants to see is all that really counts.

    Unfortunately, none of that silliness is relevant either.

    So that begs the question, do you actually have anything relevant to discuss, ever, or do you just like to spew irrelevant drivel because you're desperately hoping all this just goes away?

    I must say though, you do sound really terrified about all this.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thanks for the Corbett video Bob. I certainly hope the lawyers will succeed, but the deck is stacked against them. The perps are powerful people and go to great lengths to bury the truth.

    I liked Corbett's remark that people's credulity as to the official story is in inverse proportion to their knowledge of the facts. The more ignorant of facts any individual is, the more likely he is to still believe the official story.
     
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    Not to mention they have lots of help from the gullible, ignorant and stooges. I’m pretty sure they will find a way to shut this down. I will be shocked if this goes anywhere. You can just imagine if this got to discovery, the can of worms it would open up. I really believe some of these resident OCT worshippers are terrified.

    True and all it takes to shut down any chance at an education is a couple of magic words, “truther” and “conspiracy theory”. No ignorant mind wants to be associated with that.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Do you want some cheese with your whine.


    No Government agency is going to waste their time with this crap.
    Sure, it was funny 10 years ago, but nobody pays any attention to it any more.
     
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  9. Bob0627

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    You must be terrified too. It’s ok I don’t blame you. If this goes anywhere it might shatter your fairy tale world.

    You’re absolutely correct. The judiciary is not a government agency, it’s the third branch of the US government. You can find it in Article III of the Constitution. Read it sometime, it is a fascinating document.

    It isn’t comedy and if that were true this thread wouldn’t exist. That you think 9/11 is comedy says a lot about you. Then again you already exposed yourself when you claimed you’re a pilot but can’t spell “simulator” and insist it’s easier for a non-pilot to execute an expert precise maneuver at about 100 knots over VMO into a 77 foot wall without hitting the ground first rather than simply dive anywhere into a 33.5 acre target.

    My apologies for the length of this post. I suggest you read it very slowly, take a week or two, there’s no hurry.
     
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    we know it's an admission of defeat, when the spelling and grammar police show up to defend a point.

    And then when you have to make up sh-t I said.

    I never said, nor insisted, it would be easier to hit your favorite target.
    And BTW, diving into it, was probably discussed and dismissed, by the hijacking plotters, for obvious reasons.

    But their target was the wall, which BTW, they missed center.

    And BTW, What does a typo on "simulator", have to do with flying.
    I never used a 'Simulator" anyways.
    Of course back then it was a paper scroll, similar to a sectional, with an X and Y control using a tiny airplane.
    Ms, Flight simulator was a huge breakthrough.

    You're big problem here, or I should say, "One of them", is that these hucksters depend on people like you, who haven't the slightest idea what flying is all about.
    That way you can argue points they feed you, but don't try to feed them to a pilot.
     
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  11. Bob0627

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    Yep, I'm "defeated" by the likes of you. Sorry but I'm not here to play games where there's a winner and a loser, that may be your objective but it's not mine. This is a discussion forum not a game site. You never did pick up that the real point has nothing to do with spelling and grammar and your claim that it was a "typo" is laughable at best. But that's ok you expose yourself with each of your posts. And it's also ok if in your imagination you know the exact the intent of the "hijackers", whoever they really are. You seem to know an awful lot that makes no sense, including that no one pays any attention to 9/11 anymore, it's strictly comedy. Yet here YOU are paying an awful lot of attention to it nearly 24/7.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Get serious.
    Look at who comes here.
    The tiny group of hangers,on, who hate America, and will join forces with anything against it.

    And the other 95 percent who come here for a laugh.


    But it's past my bedtime now.
     
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  13. Bob0627

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    Yeah I already mentioned that, YOU, 24/7.

    You hate America? Are you joining the enemy? Ah methinks you already did.

    I had no idea, sorry to hear that. I come here to discuss 9/11 because MY country was attacked on that day by a bunch of terrorists who murdered over 3,000 innocent people. And the Bush administration never investigated that massive crime and instead did what they could to cover it up. And the same criminals murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people under pretext of 9/11. So BECAUSE I love MY country and I demand nothing less than justice, I absolutely want these criminals investigated and the Constitution (you know the one I suggested you read) requires it. It is after all the Supreme Law of MY Land. Not yours of course so I understand your situation.

    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government” - Thomas Paine or Edward Abbey

    (sorry Shiner, I know how you hate these quotations, it must suck for you when I do that)

    Awww, sweet dreams little guy. Check under your bed before mama tucks you in.
     
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    don't flatter yourself Bob ... OCT worshipers are only a figment of your imagination ...

    you misspelled worshiper by the way ...
     
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    True, you are likely a figment of my imagination. It's difficult to imagine a person such as yourself really exists. So you may not actually exist but your words do.

    I'm afraid not Shiner. But you did mention you hate dictionaries so I understand the source of your ignorance, it's you. It is spelled either way (i.e. judgment or judgement) but good try.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/worshipper
    http://www.freedictionary.org/?Query=worshipper

    Oops, I'm sorry I exposed you to links to dictionaries, my mistake.
     
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    Sorry Bob.
    I have a life, a family, and job.
    I have far more important things to do than sit on a chat site, spewing insane theories.

    So you spend 24/7 monitoring this site to see who is here.
    A real life can be fun too.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations, and?

    Yet you're here 24/7 in a "chat" site (sic discussion forum) defending insane theories at every opporunity. That must be most important to you.

    No, I visit this site hoping to discuss 9/11 (and other topics) with intelligent adults. Unfortunately I see your posts here on a near 24/7 basis defending insane theories and fraudulent investigations.

    How would you know?
     
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    It looks like things are beginning to stir in legal land.

    Press release:

    UNITED STATES ATTORNEY AGREES TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAW REQUIRING SUBMISSION TO SPECIAL GRAND JURY OF REPORT BY LAWYERS’ COMMITTEE AND 9/11 VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS OF YET-TO-BE- PROSECUTED 9/11 RELATED FEDERAL CRIMES

    The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, a nonprofit public interest organization, announces its receipt of a letter from the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York in response to the Lawyers’ Committee’s April 10, 2018 Petition and July 30, 2018 Amended Petition (https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lc-doj-first-amended-grand-jury-petition/) demanding that the U.S. Attorney present to a Special Grand Jury extensive evidence of yet-to-be-prosecuted federal crimes relating to the destruction of three World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 (WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7). The U.S. Attorney, in his November 7, 2018 letter to the Lawyers’ Committee, stated: “We have received and reviewed The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, Inc.’s submissions of April 10 and July 30, 2018. We will comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 as they relate to your submissions” (emphasis added). (The U.S. Attorney’s letter is attached. It is also available at https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inqu...-berman-will-comply-with-18-usc-section-3332/)

    The U.S. Attorney’s letter does not spell out the steps that will be taken to comply, but 18 U.S.C. § 3332 is clear as to what these steps must be. This law states: “[a]ny such [United States] attorney receiving information concerning such an alleged offense from any other person shall, if requested by such other person, inform the [Special] grand jury of such alleged offense, the identity of such other person, and such attorney’s action or recommendation.” This law also states that “(a) It shall be the duty of each such [special] grand jury impaneled within any judicial district to inquire into offenses against the criminal laws of the United States alleged to have been committed within that district.”

    This letter from the U.S. Attorney was signed by Michael Ferrara and Ilan Graff, Chiefs, Terrorism and International Narcotics Unit. On November 24, 2018, the Lawyers’ Committee replied, thanking the U.S. Attorney and expressing support for a thorough inquiry into the crimes reported in the Lawyers’ Committee’s petitions.

    Read the rest ....

    https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/26-nov-2018-press-release-response-from-doj/
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great news Bob. It appears there is at least one responsible individual within the Southern District of NY. Keeping my cynical fingers crossed. DOJ in Washington will be in a state of high anxiety over this. The Powers That Be will be doing everything they can to thwart this effort.
     
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    why does the link constantly refer to the "US Attorney" but not name him? ... why not use his name? ... Geoffrey Berman ... as in, Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York yada yada? ...
     
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    Why does that matter if the letter is linked with his name? That's what's more important to you than the issue itself?

    https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inqu...-berman-will-comply-with-18-usc-section-3332/
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think if you read the article it mentions his name, though technically it does not matter because he is the office holder.
     
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    because the freakin' issue is stupid Bob ... your link is just another money maker ... Donate Option 1 $100 ... did you part with a Benjamin Bob? ...

    every troofer organization is begging for money to perpetuate this nonsense and take money from the gullible ... where's that money actually going Bob? ... answer? ... scam artist pockets Bob ...

    but yeah ... I'm a paid sophist disinfo agent ... how amusing every time I hear this ...
     
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    Please correct me if I'm wrong Shiner.

    So you believe holding the US government accountable for a legitimate investigation into 9/11 is "stupid".

    You believe that a group of attorneys, supported by over 3,000 architects and engineers and several 9/11 family members who demand a legitimate investigation into 9/11 is "stupid".

    You believe a federal grand jury action for a legitimate investigation into a massive crime such as 9/11 is not only "stupid" but is free of charge. You believe donating $100 to attempt to cover the cost of this action, even though several attorneys are doing this mostly on a voluntary basis, is "stupid" and likely a major profit making scam (see below).

    It's going in my pocket, I make millions doing this. Are "troofers" still keeping you up at night?

    No you're just an extremely misguided individual who believes 9/11 fraudulent investigations were "adequate" and who is terrified enough of a potential legitimate investigation to call it "stupid". If that weren't true they would have fired you long ago.
     
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    LLOLOLOO

    Anybody can join architects and engineers for truth Bobbie.
    You don't have to be one.
     

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