9-11 Truthers & Holocaust Deniers

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  1. JCS

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    Yeah...distract, and focus on the 'motivations' rather than the facts. Do these 'motivations' also apply to revisionist scholars/researchers who are Jews and former anti-revisionists?

    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/5/4/3230

    I'd like to know Simon Wiesenthal's motivations. Could it be money? Some crazy Messianic delusion? Intense hatred? Or what?
     
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    Right, we dont know the truth but it looks so damned suspect when we also know what men in power have done in the past historically.

    I think the attacks were allowed to happen within a window that required an environment that the neocons were in a position to pull it off.

    For all of pertinent Intel made it to the WH. They didnt act on it . There was room for plausible deniability

    3 years after the pnac paper the neocons were in the WH and they got the pearl harbor needed to move to a bellicose foreign and to take down iraq.

    A grand plan for US hegemony for the 21st century. But it may involve a conspiracy that killed 3000 americans.

    I dont want it to be true. But who can trust these people in power No sane mind can do that today. Unless for amnesia or a lack of attention.
     
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    haa!!!!

    it is also "noteworthy", that Baer was only the Commandant for Auschwitz 1.

    Auschwitz 2 (Auschwitz-Birkenau), is where most of the gassings took place and the men in charge were SS Obersturmbannführer Fritz Hartjenstein of Auschwitz II from 22 November 1943, followed by SS Obersturmbannführer Josef Kramer from 15 May 1944 until the camp's liquidation in January 1945.

    did they ever deny the existence of gas chambers at their camps?

    hmmmm?

    how come Kramer never denied the existence of gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau, hmmmm?

    how come on page 50 of the text of the Bergen trial, Kramer's defense attorney admitted to the existence of the gas chambers?

    http://www.worldcourts.com/imt/eng/decisions/1945.11.17_United_Kingdom_v_Kramer.pdf
     
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    why did Josef Kramer, who was commandant for Auschwitz 2, personally admit at his trial that the gas chambers were real?

    ""I thought and· I asked myself, is it really right about these persons who go to the gas chambers, and whether that person who signed for the first time these orders will be able to answer for it." Under cross-examination he admitted having gassed 80 prisoners previously at Natzweiller camp"

    http://www.worldcourts.com/imt/eng/decisions/1945.11.17_United_Kingdom_v_Kramer.pdf


    page 40
     
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    Thank you for admitting you do not want it to be true. That is very much the heart of the matter, and you are an honest man for saying so. IMO, not wanting something to be true is the essential part of cognitive dissonance, a wilfull decision to avoid confronting the truth.

    Anyway, the official story is so full of holes that it cannot be true if the rules of logic are applied.

    No, we cannot trust those in power. One administration tells the lie, and subsequent administrations keep telling the lie over and over again. Exactly how Goebbels suggested.
     
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    For months you've evaded three simple questions I've asked you repeatedly on several related threads.
    Why should I waste my time on repeatedly debunking your speculations when you refuse to answer these 3 salient questions

    1. Where are homicidal gas chambers and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to heat the Zyklon B to a gaseous state and then introduce the gas into the gas chamber and, later, exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?

    2. Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?

    3. Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?(See below)





    (1)"Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet

    Signs and Symptoms

    EXCERPT "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
    CONTINUED



    (2) "Cyanide Toxicity
    "

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507796/

    EXCERPT "Patients with cyanide poisoning will not be cyanotic but will have a cherry red color due to excess oxygen in the bloodstream."CONTINUED


    (3) "Cyanide Poisoning Treatment, Symptoms & Effects - eMedicineHealth"
    https://www.emedicinehealth.com/cyanide_poisoning/article_em.htm

    1. EXCERPT "The skin of a cyanide-poisoned person can sometimes be unusually pink or cherry-red because oxygen will stay in the blood and not get into the cells."CONTINUED

    (4) "Cyanide poisoning"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

    EXCERPT "A cherry red skin color that changes to dark may be present"CONTINUED

    (5) "Cyanide toxicity: Dx
    https://www.openanesthesia.org/cyanide_toxicity_dx/

    EXCERPT "…cherry-red skin, bright red retinal arteries and veins,"CONTINUED
     
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    The commandant of Auschwitz 2 admitted to the existence of gas Chambers.

    So did other SS officers who worked at Auschwitz 2.
     
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    The following is just the tip of the iceberg. But it's information you need to know, but are either in denial about or simply ignorant about.

    "3. Bergen-Belsen Camp: The Suppressed Story
    The British troops who liberated the Belsen camp three weeks before the end of the war were shocked and disgusted by the many unburied corpses and dying inmates they found there. Horrific photos and films of the camp’s emaciated corpses and mortally sick inmates were quickly circulated around the globe. Within weeks the British military occupation newspaper proclaimed:

    “The story of that greatest of all exhibitions of ‘man’s inhumanity to man’ which was Belsen Concen-tration Camp is known throughout the world.”

    "Ghastly images, recorded by Allied photographers at Belsen in mid-April 1945 and widely reproduced ever since, have greatly contributed to the camp’s reputation as a notorious extermination center. In fact, the dead of Bergen-Belsen were, above all, unfortunate victims of war and its tur-moil, not deliberate policy. It can even be argued that they were as much victims of Allied as of German measures.
    Largely because of the circumstances of its liberation, the relatively unimportant German concentration camp of Bergen-Belsen has become along with Dachau and Buchenwald – an international symbol of German barbarism.
    The Bergen-Belsen camp was located near Hannover in northwestern Germany on the site of a former army camp for wounded prisoners of war. In 1943 it was established as an internment camp (Aufenthaltslager) for European Jews who were to be exchanged for German citizens held by the Allies.
    During the final months of the war, tens of thousands of Jews were evacuated to Belsen from Auschwitz and other eastern camps threatened by the advancing Soviets. Belsen became severely overcrowded as the number of inmates increased from 15,000 in December 1944 to 42,000 at the beginning of March 1945, and more than 50,000 a month later. Many of these Jewish prisoners had chosen to be evacuated westwards with their German captors rather than remain in eastern camps to await liberation by Soviet forces.81So catastrophic had conditions become during the final months of the war that about a third of the prisoners evacuated to Belsen in February and March 1945 perished during the journey and were dead on arrival. As order broke down across Europe during those chaotic final months, regular deliveries of food and medicine to the camp stopped. Foraging trucks were sent to scrounge up whatever supplies of bread, potatoes and turnips were available in nearby towns.

    "Until late 1944 conditions were generally better than in other concentration camps. Marika Frank Abrams, a Jewish woman from Hungary, was transferred from Auschwitz in 1944. Years later she recalled her arrival at Belsen:

    “[...] We were each given two blankets and a dish. There was running water and latrines. We were given food that was edible and didn’t have to stand for hours to be counted. The conditions were so su-perior to Auschwitz we felt we were practically in a sanitarium.”

    "3.1. Epidemic
    Disease was kept under control by routinely disinfecting all new arrivals. But in early February 1945 a large transport of Hungarian Jews was admitted while the disinfection facility was out of or-der. As a result, typhus broke out and quickly spread beyond control.84 This disease was the worst killer, but typhoid fever and dysentery also claimed many lives. Aggravating the situation was a policy during the final months of transferring already sick inmates from other camps to Belsen, which was then officially designated a sick or convalescence camp (Krankenlager). The sick women of Auschwitz, for example, were transferred to Belsen in three groups in November-December 1944.
    Commandant Josef Kramer quarantined the camp in an effort to save lives, but SS camp admini-stration headquarters in Berlin insisted that Belsen be kept open to receive still more Jewish evacuees arriving from the East. The death rate soon rose to 400 a day. When SS chief Heinrich Himmler learned of the typhus outbreak at Bergen-Belsen, he immediately issued an order to all appropriate officials requiring that:

    “[...] all medical means necessary to combat the epidemic should be employed [...] There can be no question of skimping either with doctors or medical supplies.” However, the general breakdown of order that prevailed on Germany by this time made it impos-sible to implement the command."

    "3.3. Kramer Reports a ‘Catastrophe’
    In a March 1, 1945, letter to Gruppenführer (General) Richard Glücks, head of the SS camp ad-ministration agency, Commandant Kramer reported in detail on the catastrophic situation in the Bergen-Belsen, and pleaded for help:

    "[...] I am now asking you for your assistance as it lies in your power. In addition to the above-mentioned points I need here, before everything, ac-commodation facilities, beds, blankets, eating utensils – all for about 20,000 internees [...] I implore your help in overcoming this situation.”

    "...even appealing to the hard-pressed German army – “I don’t know what else to do” – he told high-ranking army officers. “I have reached the limit. Masses of people are dying. The drinking water supply has broken down. A trainload of food was destroyed by low-flying [Allied] war planes. Something must be done immediately.

    "He also saw to it that food supplies were brought to the camp from abandoned rail cars. Schmidt later recalled that Kramer:

    “[...] did not at all impress one as a criminal type. He acted like an upright and rather honorable man. Neither did he strike me as someone with a guilty conscience. He worked with great dedication to im-prove conditions in the camp. For example, he rounded up horse drawn vehicles to bring food to the camp from rail cars that had been shot up.”

    “I was swamped”, Kramer later explained to incredulous British military interrogators:"

    "3.6. Postwar Deaths
    There were some 55,000 to 60,000 prisoners in Bergen-Belsen when the British took control of the camp. The new administrators proved no more capable of mastering the chaos than the Germans had been, and some 14,000 Jewish inmates died at Belsen in the months following the British take-over. Although still occasionally referred to as an ‘extermination camp’ or ‘mass murder’ center, the truth about Bergen-Belsen has been quietly acknowledged by scholars. In his 1978 survey of German history, University of Erlangen professor Hellmut Diwald1 wrote of:

    “[...]The notorious Bergen-Belsen concentration camp where 50,000 inmates were supposedly murdered. Actually, about 7,000 inmates died during the period when the camp existed, from 1943 to 1945. Most of them died in the final months of the war as a result of disease and malnutrition – consequences of the bombings that had com-pletely disrupted normal deliveries of medical supplies and food. The British commander who took control of the camp after the capitulation testified that crimes on a large scale had not taken place at Bergen-Belsen.”

    "Martin Broszat, Director of the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich, wrote in 1976:

    "[...]In Bergen-Belsen, for example, thousands of corpses of Jewish prisoners were found by British soldiers on the day of liberation, which gave the impression that this was one of the notorious extermination camps. Actually, many Jews in Bergen-Belsen as well as in the satellite camps of Dachau died in the last weeks before the end of the war as a result of the quickly improvised retransfers and evacuations of Jewish workers from the still existing ghettos, work camps and concentration camps in the East (Auschwitz) [...]”

    "Dr. Russell Barton, an English physician who spent a month in Bergen-Belsen after the war with the British Army, has also explained the reasons for the catastrophic conditions found there:

    “Most people attributed the conditions of the inmates to deliberate intention on the part of the Germans in general and the camp administrators in particular. Inmates were eager to cite examples of brutality and neglect, and visiting journalists from different countries interpreted the situation according to the needs of propaganda at home. For example, one newspaper emphasized the wickedness of the “German masters” by remarking that some of the 10,000 unburied dead were naked. In fact, when the dead were taken from a hut and left in the open for burial, other prisoners would take their clothing from them [...]German medical officers told me that it had been increasingly difficult to transport food to the camp for some months. Anything that moved on the autobahns was likely to be bombed [...]I was surprised to find records, going back for two or three years, of large quantities of food cooked daily for distribution. I became convinced, contrary to popular opinion, that there had never been a policy of deliberate starvation. This was confirmed by the large numbers of well-fed inmates. Why then were so many people suffering from malnutrition? [...] The major reasons for the state of Belsen were disease, gross overcrowding by central authority, lack of law and order within the huts, and inadequate supplies of food, water and drugs. In trying to assess the causes of the conditions found in Belsen one must be alerted to the tremendous visual display, ripe for purposes of propaganda, that masses of starved corpses presented.”

    "At his trial, Kramer’s defense attorney, Major T.C.M. Winwood, predicted:

    “When the curtain finally rings down on this stage Josef Kramer will, in my submission, stand forth not as ‘The Beast of Belsen’ but as ‘The Scapegoat of Belsen’.”

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/11o.pdf
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    "The overcrowding was gross and the staff at the camp resented it. Josef Kramer, the commandant of Belsen, felt he had a responsibility to his 3,000 inmates but was apparently angry about the 53,000 that were dumped into the camp.(21-5162, 5163)"
    http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/15barton.html
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    SS Doctor Fritz Klein was assigned to Bergen-Belsen for only a few weeks. Tortured and forced to “confess”, he was sentenced to death and hanged.
    http://www.cwporter.com/bild1.htm
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    "Josef Kramer, former commandant of both the Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz-Birkenau camps, and other defendants in the British-run "Belsen" trial, were reportedly also tortured, some of them so brutally that they begged to be put to death."
    From: Montgomery Belgion, Victor's Justice (1949), pp. 80-81. Cited in: A. Butz, Hoax of the Twentieth Century, p. 189
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    "During his trial, Kramer provided a valuable detailed statement about his wartime career, including his role as commandant of Birkenau and Belsen. He frankly acknowledged that as many as 500 Birkenau inmates died weekly during the period when he was in charge, but stressed that these deaths were due to illness and old age, and were not the result of any policy. In fact, every effort was made to keep sick inmates alive, he said, and reported that the camp's physicians normally worked ten or eleven hours daily. Some 25 or 30 barracks buildings were set aside as hospital or recuperation quarters.

    "Kramer forthrightly responded to the persistent charges of extermination and gassings:

    "I have heard of the allegations of former prisoners in Auschwitz referring to a gas chamber there, the mass executions and whippings, the cruelty of the guards employed, and that all that took place either in my presence or with my knowledge. All I can say to all this is that it is untrue from beginning to end."

    "Kramer later retreated from this unambiguous stand, perhaps in the hope that a "confession" might save his life. In a "supplementary" statement, he mentioned the existence of a single gas chamber in Birkenau, but added that it was not under his command.
    In his 1949 study, Victor's Justice, historian Montgomery Belgion reported that Kramer and other "Belsen" trial defendants were tortured, sometimes to the point that they begged to be put to death.
    In January 1995 the prestigious French weekly magazine L'Express acknowledged that the "gas chamber" in the Auschwitz main camp, which has been shown for decades to tourists in its "original" state, is actually a postwar reconstruction (built under Communist auspices), and that "everything is false" about it."
    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p26_JBS.html
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    Germar Rudolf – in prison in Germany. German-trained chemist re-examined Auschwitz, Birkenau and other installations and buildings, testing rocks, soil and other physical samples for traces of Zyklon B. Following the pioneering work of Fred Leuchter, he put the final nail into the coffin of the Auschwitz story. Even though he did scientific work and was utterly a-political, Rudolf's home and office were raided, computers seized etc. He was charged and tried in Germany for not believing in the standard Auschwitz story. As a scientist, he found the "gassing" claims to be scientifically untenable and, therefore, absurd.
    http://whale.to/b/rudolf_h.html
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    To support their theories, anti-Revisionists depend almost exclusively on "eyewitness" testimony produced in this poisoned atmosphere.

    Yehuda Bauer, director of Holocaust studies at Hebrew University, Tel Aviv, admitted: "The Nazis never made soap from Jews…" (Jerusalem Post, Int. Ed., 5 May 1990, p. 6).

    Bruno Baum, a former communist inmate in Auschwitz, was allowed to brag in summer 1945 in a Soviet newspaper: "The whole propaganda which started about Auschwitz abroad was initiated by us [German communist inmates] with the help of our Polish comrades."

    During a trial against an alleged former camp guard in Jerusalem, even the Israeli court had to admit that all witness testimony was not credible, which resulted in the defendant’s acquittal.

    The only two witnesses who were ever cross-examined had to admit in 1985 that their accounts were not true: Arnold Friedman confessed of never having experienced what he had claimed, and Rudolf Vrba admitted of having used poetic license to "embellish" his statements. (G. Klein, Pietà, Stockholm, p. 141).

    http://whale.to/b/rudolph1.html
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    Eight criteria for assessing credibility of 'confessions':
    Number 7 states:
    "See, possibly, if the text of the confession is in the handwriting of the man who confessed; see if this text is in his mother tongue or in another language; the Allies usually made the Germans sign texts drawn up in French (Josef Kramer) or in English (Rudolf Höss) and they added in all peace of conscience that they guaranteed that this text had been translated to the accused in his own language, very faithfully (and that besides in the absence of any lawyer)."
    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p103_Faurisson.html
     
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    bullshit
     
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    Below are just two of countless sources proving that much holocaust survivor testimony is at least unreliable.

    1. “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php
    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED



    2. "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED


    The thousands if not tens of thousands of former inmates interviewed by the Red Cross have no motive to lie about denying the existence of homicidal gas chambers while there is enormous profit and global fame as a motive to lie about grisly holocaust fantasies.
     
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    you have already stated that you will not review or accept ANY testimony regarding gas chambers.

    not from Sonderkommando, not from camp guards, not even from Commandants of Auschwitz-Birkenau.

    so are you here to debate or just to spread propaganda?
     
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    so why are you here, if debate is not an option?
     
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    [​IMG]

    only a truly evil demon would dare arrest rothschild with over 8 billion in gold before year 1900, worth trillions today!

    Just ask lincoln, he pulled away from the rothschild banking cabal to free his fellow countrymen from debt slavery and what was his reward?

    A bullet in the head.

    Just ask President Jackson, he pulled away from the rothschild banking cabal to free his fellow countrymen from debt slavery and what was his reward?

    2 attempts at putting bullets in his head

    Hitler put 6.3 million starving germans back to work in a mere 2 years after he pulled away from the rothschild banking cabal to free his fellow countrymen from debt slavery and what was his reward?

    A bullet in the head and a complete demolished now enslaved country with no freedom.

    President Kennedy pulled away from the rothschild banking cabal to free his fellow countrymen from debt slavery and what was his reward?

    A bullet in the head.

    Not much to 'debate' when you deal in facts.

    Got any?


     
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    "Prisoners at Auschwitz working in one of the larger clothing disinfestation chambers in the camp. They worked in much the same way as the autoclaves, with “dirty” and “clean” sides. The peepholes in the doors could be closed by raising the flap and blocking it with a catch. These were opened at the end of a disinfestation cycle to allow fresh air to enter as soon as the extractor fans were switched on."

    Millions of lice perished in these gas chambers.
     
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    "STILL NO EVIDENCE"



    You're the one who through months of evasion cannot or will debate.

    After debunking your assertions, I have repeatedly posed three simple questions to you which I have simplified even further.


    1. Where are homicidal gas chambers and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?

    2. Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?

    3. Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?(See below)



    All you have provided as "proof" of the existence of homicidal gas chambers are vague references to a handful of tortured, mentally unbalanced & desperate men whose alleged testimony is contradicted by thousands of former inmates interviewed by the Red Cross:

    EXCERPT "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED (6)

    Earlier you claimed to have a recently "found" blueprint of Auschwitz showing a "gas chamber" which turned out to be a delousing facility but in all of the holocaust related threads at this forum you have presented absolutely no evidence that any homicidal gas chamber existed in any of the camps.

    Compromised and dubious testimony from a handful of desperate, tortured, mentally unstable men that is contradicted by thousands of former inmates is not evidence, it is mere hearsay.

    Why don't you just admit that you have no evidence that homicidal gas chambers existed because they are as fraudulent as other claims made by the Holocaust Industry about "homicidal steam chambers", "human vaporizers", and "The Conveyor Belt of Death"

    "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


    (1)"Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet

    Signs and Symptoms

    EXCERPT "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
    CONTINUED



    (2) "Cyanide Toxicity"
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507796/

    EXCERPT "Patients with cyanide poisoning will not be cyanotic but will have a cherry red color due to excess oxygen in the bloodstream."CONTINUED


    (3) "Cyanide Poisoning Treatment, Symptoms & Effects - eMedicineHealth"
    https://www.emedicinehealth.com/cyanide_poisoning/article_em.htm

    EXCERPT "The skin of a cyanide-poisoned person can sometimes be unusually pink or cherry-red because oxygen will stay in the blood and not get into the cells."CONTINUED


    (4) "Cyanide poisoning"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

    EXCERPT "A cherry red skin color that changes to dark may be present"CONTINUED

    (5) "Cyanide toxicity: Dx
    https://www.openanesthesia.org/cyanide_toxicity_dx/

    EXCERPT "…cherry-red skin, bright red retinal arteries and veins,"CONTINUED



    (6) “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/
     
  18. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    The real problem here is that the US gubmint has institutionalized lies and propaganda that is 100% false and foisted it upon the people of this nation as fact to support their own interests. This was all made up bullshit by the mass murders churchill and eisenweener representing and working together with politicians from the UK and US to solidify the establishment of banking interests and their religion in favor of an extremely small minority, less than 1/2 of one percent of the democracy.

    You will never see the evidence because they dont have it, all they have is a long string of liars to quote whose storys are in most cases totally absurd when coming face to face with logic reason and the rules of evidence used in any average court.
     
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