Hitler was a liberal. Lessons learned... Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out. Before June 22nd, 1941 CPUSA and the trade unions in America that they controlled were big supporters of Adolph Hitler. During the Battle of Britain the left organized wild cat strikes in America at war plants (the most infamous was the North American Aviation strike that was building P-51 fighters for the RAF) and strikes on the docks to prevent war materials from being shipped to England. The political left in America were big supporters of Hitler until Hitler attacked the Soviet Union and the left had a meltdown. Why would Comrade Hitler attack Comrade Stalin ? Coultural-Marxist revisionist history quickly came into play. Nazis were no longer left swing but right wing.
And yet here we are, nearly 17 years later. What has changed? I can't dispute what you say. I make no claim to know with 100% clarity what happened. When I read accounts such as this i always end up with the same questions. If you really truly believe what you claim, What have you done about it? You are still here, they are still here. What has changed? I have to wonder what difference does it make. Regardless, we are all equal in the end.
You still haven't answered my question and I really would like to know. How did Hitler answer the interviewer who noticed, (quite rightly) that the Nazis certainly didn't ACT like socialists? The totalitarian inside conservatives is not screaming to get out or restrained in any way. He's in charge. We liberals may repress sometimes, when we see something as vitally important and/or totally necessary to the overall agenda but our overall effort is to avoid it. With conservatives repression is SOP, repression is part and parcel, warp and weft of conservatism, the ongoing subjugation and crushing of the human spirit IS their agenda.
The interview that I linked to was the only interview Hitler ever conducted with an American journalist. The interview I linked to is just a very short excerpt of the entire interview which isn't on line and can only be found in its entirely in a research library or a large public library and it's worth reading the entire interview. I've read it and Hitler made clear during the interview what his agenda was. Hitler's eyes were always on the East not the West. Remember, it was France and the UK who declared war on Germany, not Germany who declared war on France and the UK. Hitler and his Nationalist Socialist looked upon themselves as liberals, nationalist socialist not internationalist socialist. But as history has shown us, inside every liberal there's a totalitarian screaming to get out. A few days ago I was infracted by the PF mod squad for starting a thread that was accused of being a flame bait thread. It was the Gen. George S. Patton thread where Patton is quoted using the phrase "liberal-democrat." The thread was closed down. The question that I brought up in the third post, did Patton really made the quote "liberal-democrat" since some say that the phrase "liberal" was rarely used in the first half of the 20th Century in America. But the word "liberal" was widely used in Europe during the early 20th Century.
Can you give me a reference so I can find that interview? I have access to Enoch Pratt in Baltimore so that should do for a library Yes, Hitler did face East. This goes back to Mein Kampf and is, in fact, one of the very few aspects of German historical thought HItler wholeheartedly agreed with, since Germany's expansion into Russia begins with the Teutonic Knights I have always thought that Socialism seen as a nationalistic, rather than a world, phenomena, might superficially resemble fascism, but the defining characteristic of socialism; which is public ownership of the means of production, is still totally lacking, so I see that as close but no cigar. Hitler's understanding of economics and social science could be facile but it was, most admit, shallow at best.
Murray Bookchin - Why do you always say such politically correct things? Always hedging around the actual truth? Comedy Central is not auditioning replacements for Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore. Why were there no bodies lying around the Pentagon plane crash site? Spot the Boeing 757 in this picture
Your entire post is conspiratorial crap, but I'll demonstrate by debunking one specific part of it. Bullshit. Human remains were found at Shanksville. http://www.post-gazette.com/life/li...y-trauma-of-12-years-ago/stories/201309080143 Bullshit. There were all sorts of witnesses who heard the plane fly over and crash, and several who watched it. http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/09/06/eyewitness-reflects-on-flight-93-crash/ This claim has been completely debunked. He was stunned by the near-complete disintegration of the aircraft when it piled into the ground. When he said "no airplane", he meant that there wasn't an intact wreck, just lots of little pieces. Indeed, this is a STUPID claim. Because even if the mayor meant it the way you claim, there was in fact a TON of wreckage recovered from the crash site. So he would simply be wrong. Get a life and stop spreading lies.
Right at the top of the "Guardian" article you see... "<This edited interview of Adolf Hitler by George Sylvester Viereck took place in 1923. It was republished in Liberty magazine in July 1932.>" I believed another magazine also published the entire interview during the early 30's it might have been U.S. World News but I forget. When you look at the progressive era in America and Europe during the late 19th Century and early 20th Century most were socialist, internationalist socialist like Teddy Roosevelt, Woodward Wilson, William P. Dillingham, Henry Cabot Lodge, Francis Bellamy. Progressives were found in both the Democratic party and the Republican party and all were internationalist socialist. Before the late 1960's probably 90% of Americans were nationalist. FDR was a nationalist and so was JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan and Donald Trump. Obama is an internationalist and those today who hide behind the progressive label aren't true progressives but are internationalist who hijacked the progressive label to hide behind. The communist were internationalist socialist.
So if the faux progressives were consistent, they would be putting chinese families and others outside the US above their own, kicking their own families to the curb. Personally, I am glad they are not consistent and in coherence with their non nationalistic views. So their families are safe..for now.
Thank you for the reference, I'll see if I can find it. My question re communism is ARE there any communists any more? I always thought that whole thing ended in the 70's when Marcuse started pushing this idea that revolutionaries had to to careful not to be "bought off" by capitalists giving them everything they wanted. Well wtf, better evidence that most commies were just parvenus doing the whole revolution for revolution's sake thing couldn't be found, IMO. OTOH are there capitalists either? Are you or anyone looking for a return to the 1890's when monopolies employed you for 12 hour swing shifts 7days a week for wages you couldn't even starve on? Just about everyone and every place has evolved this sort of Bernie Sanderism "Socialist Democracy" where we have capitalism but it's regulated and the whole of politics is mainly just an ongoing argument about how much regulation is needed. The only place where you'll still have people who want a return to the Gilded Age is America and nobody was listening to them until this last election.
the massacre of 11 September 2001 was a culling moment because it garnered support for the insane idea that this is a Judaeo-Christian nation and a Christian nation, but I digress. These events have been lucrative for many, both politically and financially. I look at these events as catalyst that has opened the door to so much of the secretive manipulations, decadence and degenerative behaviors of "The Power That Should Never Be" . . . L8TRS!
Why would they have to put others above themselves? Internationalism argues that the world IS an integrated whole and we should catch up to that, nothing more. Why is everything all or nothing with you people? Why do you push this simple-minded bovine feces when you know yourselves that even a tiny amount of THOUGHT completely invalidates most everything you say? Most conservatives remind me of what I once read was the omnibus statement of social interaction in the pre-civilized world: Stay out of our village. You can't have anything of ours and we won't give it to you. If you have anything we want we will come and take it but we still don't want you here, anyone who tries to get us to change our ways is a witch, Stay out of our village
What are you talking about ??? Real progressives use science to cure the ills of society. Progressives are racist who believe that some races and ethnic groups are superior to others. Google "Dillingham Commission" and "progressives."
I was using your international progressives, who place more importance on non americans, on other nations, over their own. And was hoping they never get consistent in their ideology. For if so, they would place other families over their own, even if it impoverished their own.
Maybe 16 or so years ago over on the "Politico" the topic was nationalist socialist vs. internationalist socialist (communist in the USSR) One Russian who lived in the USSR for forty years until the end of the Cold War said that the internationalist socialist in the Soviet Union were actually very nationalistic and looked upon all non Russians (Poles, Chechs, Hungarian, Germans, Africans, Hispanics, Vietnamese, etc.) as being inferior to Russians but were used as pawns or "useful idiots" of the Kremlin to wage wars of liberation (proxy wars) to further the Soviets political agenda of spreading communism throughout the world.
