9 dead, 43 injured in Chicago Memorial Day weekend shootings

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As horrible as these murders are, the guns can’t be blamed and here’s why:

    Chicago already has strict gun laws, but they also have soft on crime policies along with a police force that’s afraid of their own shadows thanks to the anti cop folks. The general argument is that the guns in Chicago come from other cities and states with less strict gun laws. The problem with that argument is that the people who live in those other cities and states aren’t shooting each other in drive bys, that happens when the guns get to Chicago.

    Chicago’s leadership is failing their residents. There are dozens of classrooms where zero kids test at grade level, a lack of will to enforce the law, no cash bail for most crimes, taxes are always going up, and now businesses are leaving. Add to that Chicago being a proud sanctuary city and that policy has illegals being shipped there much to the anger of the residents because those residents have to provide proof of vaccination for a slew of things every year so their kids will be allowed in school but the illegals do not have to provide anything at all. Plus it already looks like the new mayor will be worse than the one he replaced.

    RIP Chicago


     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait, your concerned about 9 people in chicago, but not about the 105 people killed in mass shootings in the last 9 days alone ?

    WE HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY……

    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
     
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    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    lol. Chicago has gotten so violent that the definition of mass shooting had to be changed to make the city not look so bad comparatively.
     
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    All shootings are tragic.

    Regarding your link, the only shooting I heard about was the biker gang shooting in New Mexico. And while the shootings on that list are scattered around the country, 52 people were shot in Chicago in just two days. Chicago has lots of problems and I doubt things will improve when there is no will to improve.
     
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    What about the countries with higher homicide rates than the US that have even stricter gun laws?

    If guns were the problem then the US would have the highest homicide rate in the world but it doesn't.

    Why?

    Thanks,
     
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    How about mandatory significant jail time for people who shoot other people with guns other than in self defense? Even for 6 year olds who shoot their teachers just because they don't like 'em. People serving jail time are less likely to repeat as long as they're still in jail.

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    No gun issue, but a mental issue. People who have been coddled thier whole lives whom have become undisciplined, incapable of dealing with authority or adversity becoming mentally ill.
     
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    That link is nonsense. It classifies a mass shooting as any shooting where four or more people are injured or killed. One of the shooting listed actually did involve a drive by. Might as well make use of black America's overt violence to further the gun agenda I suppose.
     
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    All due respect, but where they happen is not the issue, nor the concern. Chicago is 28th in minders per capita, and with a population of 9.4 million, that pretty low. There are many Republican run states/citys that have higher murder rates, but thats not what I’m discussing. The raw count of murders are high because we have a gun problem.

    Blaming a mayor, or a governor because they aren’t of our personal political persuasion isnt the issue, and we need to, as a society actually address the problem, and not make it a political debate to meet a political agenda. There is literally a mass shooting every day in America, and we shouldn’t be blaming a politician, we should blame the killer, and then look for legitimate ways to end the violence.
     
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    Murder rate, or murder by gun rate ?
     
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    And those mental issues can legally get a gun….
     
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    Where’s the gun banners and Joe Biden’s outrage?
     
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    No, we don’t have a gun problem. We have a government that enables violence because they are too soft on criminals.
     
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    It might not feel like it to you, but a bunch of gun murders in Chicago over Memorial day weekend doesn't make all the other regular mass shootings in the US acceptable.
     
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    You're absolutely right. That said, I think this thread is a response to the tendency of the left to constantly signal their virtues when it comes to mass shootings but largely ignoring the vast, vast majority of gun homicides in this country which are not related in any way to mass shootings.

    As I said once before, if democrats want to reduce gun violence, they should stop participating in it, and they participate in it a lot.
     
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    No they can’t.
     
  17. Steve N

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    If anything, Biden is putting the finishing touches on the speech he’ll give in Chicago where he tells them it’s the danger of white supremacists is what they should be afraid of.
     
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    That freaking old fool.
     
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    We have a thug problem in the US.
     
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    Blacks are a third of the population in Chicago but commit 80 percent of all shootings. 80% of Chicago homicide victims are black.
    Most homicide victims in Chicago died as the result of gunshot wounds. How come Joe Biden doesn't want to take away their guns?
     
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    Black on black murders is just another way of destroying the black community much like Margret Sanger did with planned Parenthood and her racist agenda.
     
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    Why does a bloody SIX YEAR OLD have access to a gun….!???
     
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    Meanwhile, the same people supporting the proliferation of weapons are also cutting funding for mental health treatment….go figure.
     
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    So ***king what…!! Aren’t those people still citizens of your country…?? Do they not bleed…? How convenient for you to throw up the image of the ‘other’ to minimise the problem….
     
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    Actually, it would seem that the overall homicide rate would seem to be the best measure of the effectiveness of a country's laws.

    Thanks,

    (1). "Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking"
    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings
     
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