9 EU countries ready to block economic sanctions against Russia

France, Germany, and Italy are among EU members who don’t want to follow the US lead and impose trade sanctions on Russia. US sanctions are seen as a push to promote its own multibillion free-trade pact with Europe.

“France, Germany, Luxembourg, Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, and EU President Italy see no reason in the current environment for the introduction of sectorial trade and economic sanctions against Russia and at the summit, will block the measure,” a diplomatic source told ITAR-TASS.

In order for a new wave of sanctions to pass, all 28 EU members must unanimously vote in favor. EU ministers plan to discuss new sanctions against Russia at their summit in Brussels on Wednesday, July 16. Even if only one country vetoed, sanctions would not be imposed. With heavyweights like France and Germany opposed to more sanctions the measure will likely again be stalled, the source said.

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The sanctions against Russia have NOTHING to do with elections and EVERYTHING to do with money. The USA is trying to block Russian oil and gas to promote the profits of American oil companies, and is being used as a wedge to try to force the EU to lift its prohibitions against genetically modified foods - meaning the sanctions are also to financially benefit Monstanto.

While President Trump campaigned on establishing detente' with Russia, it would seem that the super rich have a very different agenda. Not only is the Congress - Republican and Democrat - trying to force Russia into closer relationships with Iran and N. Korea, but also are voting to push much of Europe further towards Russia and away from the USA.

It would seem the USA's political parties and the money interests that own them is declaring economic warfare on the world to make fast short-term profits - and in the long run this may not go too well as it becomes the USA versus everyone else. I predict the push to take oil off the US dollar standard will escalate and it likely that the EU will refuse to comply with the sanctions.

 

Let's see what kind of pressure Washington will put on Germany to comply... since only Germany matters. For heavens sake, how can they force the EU to impose sanctions on Russia for no reason other than to sell them gas at a higher price?

We don't know though if Trump will sign it, so we will have to wait and see.

 

He has reportedly indicated that he likely will.

Everything is being done to try to convince him that if will NOT escalate the Cold War for the enormous profits, jobs and power to the intelligence community and the military industrial complex they will get rid of him. In recent history, any president who has bucked those people has either been assassinated or had to resign facing impeachment removal.

It was top Senate Democrat Schumer who explained how he, Trump and every other elected official must do exactly whatever the "intelligence community" wants or they will destroy you. Maybe President Trump has accepted that is an inescapable fact. It is clear that President Obama did, as did President Clinton, President LBJ, and both President Bush.

 

Unfortunately nothing happens.
Merkel is a True Servant of Washington.
A little blah-blah and EU countries will be forced to accept US sanctions ( and to pay five or ten times more for the US Shell Gas ).
Millions of new unemployed in EU are not interesting for Merkel & Co

 

Merkel will say "Sanctions are without alternatives"
Lying German MSM Presstitutes will admire her decision.
The United Socialist Party CDU-CSU-SPD-FDP-Greens-Lefts too.
Tens of thousands Germans became unemployed.

 

Nothing about this on MSM, from what I can see anyway, non issue!?!

 

MSM Presstitutes are too busy now, looking for Tramp's & Putin traces in Galaxy NGC 3923

 

This is a REALLY easy problem to solve. You either go along with the sanctions against Russia, or we leave NATO, in which case all of Europe will become Russia. I don't see this being an issue, realistically. It's a win win for the US either way.

Also, why does Germany need natural gas? I thought they were running their country on wind, solar, unicorns, and fairy dust? They are admonishing everyone else for using fossil fuels, why not walk the walk, if you are going to talk the talk?

 

First of all gas is very clean. Second of all why would Europe become Russia rather than Russia becoming Europe? It's the same thing. Anyway it serves Merkel right for turning her back on Russia in the first place, and going along with the US.

I guess she feels since she destroyed the other nations in the EU with the sanctions, and made them more dependent on Germany she won. They're all nuts! No wonder Putin looked at them in disgust, wondering how they could destroy themselves for the US.

I still give the EU a two year survival rate.

 

cowards,

 

As of yet we don't know if Trump will sign it. If he does he will be going against pressure from American business', the EU, as well as Russia... and he can expect retaliation from Russia in some form. If he vetoes it, then the media will continue their propaganda war against him on an even larger scale.

So what we have now is that the very congress which is supposed to represent us and watch over our welfare, are doing the exact opposite. So who is Congress and the media working for if not for us? Where do their interest's lie?

By continuing the animosity towards Russia with sanctions, even though there is no cause... and therefore against international law, they will alienate Russia even more so at a time when relations were starting to get better, but also Europe, by forcing them to buy gas from the US at a higher price to the detriment of their own people.

 

of course he will.

 

Who, the EU leaders?

This is an interesting conundrum for the Democrats here.

I personally think that without all this pressure Trump would be ok with dropping some sanctions on Russia. Because of the PR nightmare being pushed by the left, Republicans are more forced to go along with this message.

However the hyper liberal EU now is going against everything that the Dems stand for, and I do mean everything since they have had no other message for the last 6 months.

Hmm, wonder what the Dems will do here

 

Good post. We are losing our credibility and this is just the beginning of the rebellion against decades of being the worlds biggest bully.

 

Your posts are often painfully nonsensical but this one takes the cake. Did you not realize that France is a major world nuclear power and as such is fully capable of wiping Russia off the fact of the map ?

Duuuuuuuuoooooooopphhhhhh

 

Good!

Good riddance to sanctions against Russia for taking back the Crimea.
Ukraine was once a part of Russia.
Why should the EU not face sanctions for taking it?

Sanctions against Germany for start for allowing the EU to annex land.

 

Key word, once a part of Russia, when the SU was around, it doesn't exist anymore,).

 

If Putin and Russia are so confident of it, I would love to see a modern day election taken throughought Crimea and completely run by the UN.

If Crimea wants to be there, so be it. The only thing I think sanctions are there for is Ukraine and if the actual people involved don't care, nor do I.

But we have to keep our treaties with "teeth" and if someone screws an ally, we better be willing to back them

 

Agree on reperforming the referendum. Looks like the most logical solution for situation - get conditions satisfying for UN, get enough observers to make sure that no rigging is possible - and just look what people want, through an adequate democratic procedure.

Could've been even more effective if was done years ago - before that bloodbath in Ukraine begun.

 

It really would be a great "open hand" for everyone to come together. If it comes out 50/50, it would still be kind dicey.

However from my friends that live in Russia I don't think this would be the case. Let the EU/UN whoever do the polling with LOTS of live television of it, make the conditions so everyone feels it is fair.

If it came out at 60% or higher to be a part of Russia, I say re-draw the maps and end the sanctions

 

Would be nice, but.. Well, time passes - this does not happens. So.. I can't say I abandoned hope on that accord, but rather put it in a drawer, waiting for better time. Does not looks like there is enough interest in politicians in ending war in Ukraine, probably not enough people have died yet and not enough money been washing yet. Or maybe I am just getting angry at how passive politicians are towards this issue. Where people of almost same culture, of same religion murder each other for sake of what set of bureaucrats they will have above them.

 

That won't happen, as long as russian troops there. Besides it was 117% voter turnout last time....wow I say? Who is the other 17%?

 

Well, the world needs US, too. If I remember correctly, it wasn't that many cold winters ago when Russia was cutting off gas supplies for political reasons.

We get grapes from all sorts of places in the supermarket. Why does there have to be a monopoly on who gets to produce gas for a region?

 

Really? We must believe you because you said so?

 

Uhhhh, no, believe what you may, I'm stating what the obvious looks.