9 year old kills himself after coming out as gay

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  1. Liberty Monkey

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/2...coming-out-gay-bullied-by-classmates-mom.html

    Very sad, I doubt he had a clue at 9 years old what the hell he was just susceptible but regardless the mother knowing her son was going to come out at school and then blaming bullies shows a naivety in this world. This was never going to go well as she's shirking her personal responsibility at a wild guess I would say she must be a Democrat.

    If I had a child in the same situation I would have told them the problems with coming out and pushed them not to until after they hit puberty.
     
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    The saddest thing is that he probably wasn't gay at all, he had gender dysphoria. Poor kid - only 9 years old and his whole life was stretched out in front of him.
     
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    Obviously, you don't have children.
     
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    What would you have done?
     
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    I would have told them not to come out yet, but with my one child, I would have known there is 0 chance he would have taken that advice. I would have also told them I love them no matter what, just like this mother did.

    Look, this is very sad. Blaming it on the mother or Democrats is even sadder. One of my kids once attempted suicide. I can tell you, everybody in the family had 0 idea of what was about to happen, and we think of us as very involved parents.
     
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    So essentially exactly the same I forgot to say I would have told them I loved them but I would have done of course.

    My uncle was gay and what echoes in my memory is him telling me he knew when he hit puberty. I miss him, he died of AIDS in the early 90's ran a famous gay pub in the heart of London I would have loved to have heard his stories but I was too young. Years later the pub was bombed and the guy that bombed it lived on the same road as another friend who worked for Nokia at the time.

    I remember thinking small world.

    My uncle used to have Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett in his pub 2 of my idols I'm gutted not to have got the 2nd hand experience of those days from him.

    My nan to her credit never gave one sh*t about him being gay.
     
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    That's for sure.
    Maybe you haven't thought this through. As long as the US is going through life with misinformation, disinformation, censorship, propaganda, patriotism, and hero-worshipping, nothing is ever going to change for the better.
    You are blaming his death on the mother and the Democratic Party? That's crazy.
    A shallow reply. The righteous response would have been to get the school (PTA, whatever) involved. Children can only make decisions based on the views of the school, the parents, and their peers. If the school and the parents cannot come to an agreement on the best way forward then the children will fall back on the law of the street, made up of ignorance, inexperience, TV films and video games.

    This boy's death was EVERYBODY's FAULT.
     
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    What I am saying is that parents are often powerless trying to influence very important decisions in their kid's lives. You only figure that out when you have kids on your own.
     
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    Years ago no nine year old knew what being gay meant. I have no doubt that whether he really would have been gay or not that our current gay hero worshiping society pushed him into running and telling his classmates. The article says how 'proud' he was over this. No nine year old would be proud over something like this. I imagine he was proud over running and telling people something that he thought would make him a local hero - until it didn't. For whatever reason, teasing and bullying is human nature. It's too common not to be. I also wonder why a mother and nine year old have different names. That's another thing modern liberal society has given us: missing fathers.
     
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    As always, the Republican claim of family values does not hold up. Divorce rates are actually higher in red states than in blue states. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but the trend is hard not to notice.
     
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    How could this kid have known about being gay at 9 years old? He had not hit puberty yet.
     
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    Of course divorce rates are higher among Republicans. Democrats - especially blacks - don't bother to get married at all. They have children with different fathers like a merry-go-round. How do you think this kid and his mother have different last names? Plus, in some of the pictures she's wearing a "Black Lives Matter.... Climate Change is Real" tee shirt. You think that's an accident?
     
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    May I cite you in the future admitting that divorce rates among Republicans are higher? May I also ask you what happens to those children of divorced Republicans? Are they not growing up fatherless if raised by the divorced single mother, as is most often the case?
     
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    It's obvious this child grew up a very liberal home, probably where homosexuality was glorified as something to celebrate, so he thought it would be fun to come out as gay (like showing your friends you're newest hot wheel racecar), but the response wasn't what he thought it would be. How the heck does a 9 year old even understand the concept of "coming out" or even care about who he is going to date and have sex with. This child is a product of his parents, no doubt. Very sad ending.
     
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    I remember when I was 9 and I had a crush on a girl. I had no idea that I had a crush on that girl, I just knew I had a crush on that girl. I was 9, I couldn't have known I was attracted to the girl, I just knew I was attracted to the girl. Knowing what you feel doesn't happen until you reach the age of 18, 16 in some states, because we like to use arbitrary numbers to tie down abstract things for our convenience. This poor child in the OP was probably just confused, because you don't start being gay until you're 16, 18 in some states. We all develop at the same exact rate because we're really just chia pets that can talk.
     
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    I do and its clear you do not if you cannot understand how the parents obviously played a pivotal role in this.
     
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    I feel so sorry for the kid and his parents. As a parent, I can’t imagine their grief.

    But I have to wonder if mankind would be better off if there was no such thing as homosexuality. On balance, is it a positive or negative for our species? I don’t have the answer; I’m just raising the question.

    It’s a purely academic question because we’ll never be able to end homosexuality and we wouldn’t want to do it if we could.
     
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    That was brilliant. But will likely be misunderstood by the people it is aimed at.
     
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    Maybe we should focus on the kids who felt empowered to bully another kid to death? Seems to me the problem is bullying, not homosexuality.
     
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    Think about what you just said. Does every child who is bullied kill themselves or are there other factors involved like in this case?

    The parents of course play a major role in this tragedy. Pretending any child knows they are gay before puberty had to be taught by some clearly anti science parents.
     
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    I'm going with diddled.
     
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    That doesn't make sense. Are you claiming that bullying is not the problem because every child getting bullied doesn't kill himself?

    What was the problem in this case? And does everyone who has it kill himself?


    By the way, the kid was probably transgender (wanting to dress like a girl) but didn't understand what it was. And I'm pretty sure some kids as young as 3 years old have said they don't think they have the right gender identity.
     
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    So because not all bullied kids commit suicide, it’s not the bullies’ fault?

    Wow. Nonsense AND deflection in two sentences.

    #1, it doesn’t matter whether you think the kid “knew” he was gay or not. Him saying he was does not somehow excuse the bullying, or make him or his parents culpable. He should be able to think he is gay without it being a justification for anything.

    #2, calling the parents “anti-science” is exactly backwards. By age 9 many kids know who they are attracted to. I had a crush on a girl at age 9. Never had a crush on a boy. Sexual orientation isn’t something that only manifests itself at puberty. It is YOU who are ignoring the science.
     
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    Bullying of course is a problem but pretending that all kids bullied kill themselves is not reality.

    Wrong once again. Read the article. This woman claims her child told her he's gay. Any normal parent would explain to the child that until their body matures they should not jump to that conclusion. Pretending the parents had no role in this is to really deny reality.

    The problem with this case is a failure at the parent level.

    So all tom boys are gay leaulauzon? That's your argument? Do you really believe what you are claiming now?
     
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    Daughter wanted to be a puppy when she was 6. Guess I'm a bad parent because I didn't get her a leash and let her **** in the yard. Instead when it stopped being cute I had to constantly tell her to stop barking. She's 11 now in honors classes, but I guess I broke her.
     
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