A 3-year-old boy was killed after a barrage of gunfire was aimed at a home in Charlotte, North Carol

Everyone requires coping tools to navigate the challenges of their environments. Take away one coping tool without addressing the challenge the tool mitigates, and the result will be some new coping tool.

Guns are one such coping tool. They can be used to cope with the risk of violent assault. They can be used to cope with the need to provide food. They can be used to cope with damage to crops. They can be used to cope with the stress of a hard day. It's simply a tool. Ban the tool, and people will cope with these issues in new ways that does not always result in a reduction in the problems the old coping tool created.

 

The approach to violence reduction must have a holistic view. Most people aren't just spontaneously violent. Those that are cannot be regulated, by definition.

Why are the teens at school at war? Because guns exist? Don't think so. Why are the cities at war? Because guns exist? Not likely. Why are people motivated to suicide? Because they can use a gun? Sorry, but no. Violence and conflict between humans has existed long before guns existed. It will exist long after they have been replaced by some new tool of violence. Social media? How many people are trying to murder each other there? It's rampant. No guns there but lives are destroyed daily.

 

And every one of those groups democrats pander to are some how claimed to be victims or oppressed.

 

Qua’Tonio Stephens, who would have ever guessed. Qua’Tonio.

 

Lol.

There was no justifying your comment......but you sure tried.

 

I do.

 

no need to justify it, you just had issues reading it, seems even after trying to explain it to you again, you still failed... sad!

 

So no one wants to address the issue that the high schools are producing kids at war with each other?

Figures.

 

Show that it was the high school that produced what you say.

 

The best way to eliminate crime is to stop classifying all acts known to man as crimes. The control freaks probably made ten thousand behaviors crimes last year. They have a serious Moses complex.

 

Parents need to teach their kids manners and social skills.

 

the war on drugs funds gangs....

 

Show it is the gun.

Complex systems are complex. I can't draw a causal link to the school because there are too many factors that influence violence. What I can do is show what the school isn't producing: college ready kids.

 

Who does the war on guns fund?

 

How many of those kids have parents? There aren't a lot of details, but the story suggests that 11 people were living at the great grandmother's house.

Angel, the boy's father looks young, the boy's mother's name does not appear to have been released which leads me to believe she's a minor.

 

what war on guns, anyone that wants a gun can get one... oh, do you mean the war on guns against ex-felons?

 

Follow through with your analogy. A war on drugs funds gangs. Who does a war on guns fund?

 

there is no war on guns, that is the point

if there ever was a gun prohibition and the demand was great enough for guns, it would fund gangs, same as drugs

the hard part would be getting rid of the dead bodies when you used an illegal gun for self-defense - that said, I support the Second Amendment, even for ex-felons

every American family should have the right to protect their homes with a gun

 

I'm glad you support the 2a, but this perfectly illustrates the complexity of the environments that regulators influence. People are dying of drugs. The simple answer is make it difficult to obtain drugs and the consequence is that people shoot each other to get them. Regulators can point to reduced drug death and ignore increased gun death because it's so difficult to directly link the two.

 

Sounds an awful lot like vigilante.

 

The first organized police force wasn't created until 1838.

What was the first thing they did when they created CHOP or CHAZ or whatever? Citizen police force.

Besides I'm not sure which is worse. Vigilante, or qualified immune tyrant with a badge.

 

I never said it was the gun. Perhaps you should at least read my other posts in this thread instead of attributing something to me that I never claimed.

In other words the post I responded to was...what? Trolling? Your idea of a joke? What?

 

Perhaps you should at least read my other posts in this thread.

 

I spent many years in the deep south. Just about everyone had a pick up truck or had access to one through friends or relatives. Most trucks had gun racks and during hunting season they were fully utilized. These are not the gun owners that concern me. My father in law had at least 4 long guns and several pistols. He did not have a gun safe, didn't need one. No one touched any of his arms without his express permission and knowledge of what you wanted it for. The people that concern me are those not raised in a community of guns and are basically ignorant or uncaring about all of the things required of gun ownership and usage like the emotionally disturbed, the convicted felon, the gang banger who just has to have a mac 9 or a mac 10 or a street sweeper and so on. Surely we can get on board with imposing some restrictions on unlimited gun rights.

 

I grew up in the same era. And all of those restrictions that you want, that I highlighted in bold? We already have them. It is illegal for those with mental problems and are a danger to have guns. It is illegal for convicted felons to have guns. And a gang banger owning a mac 9 or 10 more than likely did not go through the requirements to own such a gun since they are automatics, which means they have them illegally. The streetsweeper was declared to be under the same regulation as machine guns in '94. So again, they're not likely to be owning them legally.

There is no such thing as "unlimited gun rights". That is just a talking point put out by those that want guns banned.

Again, you're not going to solve the problem of "gun violence" (there is no such thing, that is just a term used to point towards the gun to make them seem scarier) by focusing on the gun. You're going to solve it by addressing the things I already told you about in the post that you quoted.