A Case for Respectful Disagreement With Male-Bashers

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Such monstrous fascist ideas are an acceptable part of modern discourse.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) I never pretended to be the right winged. I don't know why you invented that, you start to get boring. I didn't left the cult of the left to join the other one. 2) You're the one who brought all those non-sense of "right wing contributions to social progress" to better excuse the failure of your tribe. Social progress is leftist ideology, it's like judging a turtle and a rabbit on their ability to be a turtle. I just pointed out the failure of the left. 3) There is nothing philosophical in that, it's just herd instinct. Nobody think philosophy as a poor dualism, when you're only solution is predetermined two social group, you dare call that philosophy ? No it's herd instinct.

    It's not particulary good to be colored in California, yet that's one of the fortress of the progressive, neither particulary good to be good in Chicago, Detroit, all the democracts didn't really managed to improve the situation of the colored people. But let me guess, democrats aren't responsible, all the republican fault.

    Almost everybody would declare they agree with humanist philosophy.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I never accused you of being a right-winger but now that you mention it you sound very much like one. We have made great strides in social equity no thanks to the right, which seems to go without your critique.
    You seem to not understand a part of basic psychology in that personalities range, when measured that way, from liberal to conservative, with most in the middle of the bell curve. It is not herd instinct and not dualism it is a continuum ranging from left, moderate and right.
    You do not seem to understand the challenges of institutional racism but there are many middle class African Americans doing just fine.
    "Almost everybody would declare they agree with humanist philosophy" except right-wingers.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, great success that are Chicago and Detroit. I truly admire those places of social equity that are those towns. We could also speak of the penalty that Obama imposed on asian students to enter university.

    Left and right aren't psychology notions, just social constructs.

    I understand them, as Obama was putting penalties against asian students. Probably that weird definition of fighting racism.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you have difficulty seeing the positive or lack the perspective of an American but we have made great strides in correcting social inequities by history. Every city has pockets to sections of poverty. Employment may be at a high point but good paying blue collar jobs have dried up and one can work full time at a service job and have to choose between rent or food let alone ever having health insurance if the right had its way.

    The right never liked affirmative action and the elite colleges like Harvard kept the percentage of minorities admitted within predetermined limits and that kept more Asian Americans out, not Obama.

    The need to see fairness in social intercourse versus the continued status quo is not a social construct.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's Obama which favoured free trade deals which contributed to dry up good paying collar jobs. In Detroit, it's not "pockets" of insecurity.

    Strange way to justificate the blatant discrimination against asian students. You're very good at sugar coating. Only the exam results should matter and maybe rather than giving more point to black people, it would be better to largely improve school to enable people from poor places to perform better.

    Yeah, fairness, equity, the same words that the left always had, that the red khmers had when they were executing their genocide, same words than the soviet used.

    Basically a whole post to justificate obvious discriminations in name of "equity". Ironic, it isn't ?
     
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    Indeed, this is getting too weird for me. Obama didn't discriminate against asians, the colleges did. Obama didn't sign NAFTA a Republican did and the blue collar jobs were long gone before Obama was president. Then you compare the American left to the Khmer Rouge? Its getting ridiculous.
     
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    The colleges did under obama administration and did nothing, so he participated.
    Obama was a harsh defender of TTIP and Republican are as much traitor to the people in that case.

    You have a lot in common with them, in name of "equality" or "equity", you're ready for everything.
     

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