A Cloud over Trump's Legitimacy

And this is your opinion only. You actually have no idea because they would never discuss the details of a highly classified ongoing investigation with a bunch of dumbasses like us on an anonymous Internet forum... Though you guys had no trouble pillorying "the Muslim Kenyan" for far less for 8 years straight. Honestly, put the shoe on the other foot. Have you no shred of independence? You can't have it both ways. There is plenty of evidence of coziness *at least* to warrant understanding these connections. I can't believe you guys are choosing to be willfully blind to how messed up this is.

 

Tell us what your excuse will be when evidence like that is presented in a trial?

 

Won't happen because there is no evidence. It would have been leaked by now. ha ha ha To take trump down before any trial. The evidence you think exists is like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. It was crazy talk from the get-go by tin foil hat democrats.

 

No, as a matter of fact, it doesn't matter which party the perps (if any) belong to, the investigation by the FBI and DHS IS completely non-partisan. The congressional investigations should be bi-partisan as well, except it doesn't appear as tho the house investigation is, which is why most americans should be calling on an independent investigator, unless you consider a foreign power directly interferring in the american election process to be a function of petty partisan politics and bigotry.

 

To date not one shred of evidence against trump nor anyone who worked for him in the campaign, or transition. Yet we have had leaks, leaks, leaks, from intel, which are crimes. Given the push to take trump down, by more than just the politically driven dems, if there was one shred of evidence, it would have been leaked.

I hope you guys come back and not vanish as some did after Hillary lost, a shoe in election so I can remind you this was crazy talk from the get-go. The FBI investigation, that came from Obama, will continue on, as Comey said such investigations take a long time. Just because Comey is still investigating, the one Obama wanted, does not mean anything, except that he is bound to cross the ts, and dot the i's. But rest assured, if there was on iota of evidence of collusion, at least one scrap would have been leaked, given the number of criminal leaks to date. Occam's Razor.

So, make sure you guys come on back when once again, you were wrong and as Greenwald says, just crazy thinking.. When you have an NSA which has communications saved, no one would ever collude with Russia to win a us election for president. That is why it is crazy thinking. So my rational mind here, as a non trump voter, is the sane one, of the people who did not vote for trump. Hillary people have lost all rationality, and that is a shame, for these people will vote again one day, and I just do not think they serve this nation, for irrationality never serves it. I will not go anywhere, but I do suspect an exodus here when the truth destroys you.

 

Bigotry???????????????????????????????????????????????????

Rule1) SJWs always lie Rule 2) see Rule 1

 

If you really think the swamp wouldn't cheerfully try this in front of their Alphabet soup media compadres you're kidding yourself. If they had anything it would long ago have been leaked to every news outlet they could find.

 

Did you forget about Reagan being president?

 

Did you forget about the fact that president isn't the same as mayor?

 

Yes, they have leaked the most damaging info, and it is devoid of evidence, but it gave something for speculation, where suspicion is equated to evidence. You can bet your arse, if there was evidence of collusion from the NSA, or CIA, they would have used it. Which is why Clapper who had access to all things trump, said he had not seen any evidence. The FBI is simply carrying out the investigation Obama told them to do, beginning last July. It has to be completed and as he said such investigations take time. Remember, this is the same guy who would not support charging Hillary because he said he did not see intent, or it could not be proved, with many other prosecutors disagreeing with him.

The dems here will be wailing and gnashing their teeth one day, and let us hope they will not be a mass exodus, so they can take what is coming to them, for believing in what Greenwald said was...crazy talk. But these people supported Hillary, stayed with the democratic party even after they were shown to be a banana republic party. So it is no surprise they would buy into crazy talk, for their hatred is so deep it has wrecked their brains. Hatred, this quality of hatred is like that. It enslaves minds.

 

Did you forget that neither run the unions?

 

that's a lot of questionmark for something as obvious as partisanism being textbook form of bigotry. jMight want to pick up a dictionary.

I have always wondered what the problem with social justice actually is, apart from the nutbar fringe being completely over the top.

from wiki since its a relatively simplistic explanation of the actual concept, not the caricature you seem to think it is.

 

So if one reads between the lines a bit social justice is robbery by the government to enforce some sort of odd notion of fairness in which people who do nothing are worth more than those who pay millions to others who work for them.

 

Nope I did not but the collusion between public service and other unions and corrupt mayors in NYC and elsewhere is on the border of bankrupting more than a few communities..

 

A cloud over his legitimacy? That is like saying Noah had a cloud over his ark.

 

There is no fire and the only smoke comes from overly agitated progressive minds looking for anything however pointlessly silly, and frail with which to try to hang our current president.

 

No way. This is huge. People involved in the investigation are now saying there is direct evidence of collusion between Trump's people and the Russians.

 

Doesn't change the fact that what I said is the truth and what you said is not: Open Investigation with highly classified information vs. your *hope* that there's nothing there.

 

Baloney.

 

I don't need to hope. I am sure of it.

 

I suppose we'll see!

 

The rebels we supported turned into ISIS. We were helping ISIS. Russia is actually helping the good guys even though they are not all that good. Russia is actually fighting terrorists. How is this a bad thing? Our Allies the kurds and other countries are also fighting ISIS. Supporting the rebels was a mistake and sparked a violent christian holocaust which we did little to prevent.

We created ISIS and we wanted Iran's ally Syria destroyed so we did not care. http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-th...op-vs-billions-in-covert-military-aid/5409449

I agree with you on Bush. He was one of the worst presidents we have ever had and as a leaning Republican I am embarrassed to have even voted for him. He not only messed up the middle east (Iraq is somewhat better now to live in) but he also helped create NAFTA. Bush, Cain and Romney were all mistakes. It's sad my party could not get it right untill now. I just hope it's not to late.

I have seen nothing that actually proves Russia helped Trump. Wikileaks exposed truths about Hillary. Trump won the election fairly. A few revealed truths by Wikileaks does not in any way make Trump a cheater. They have nothing to do with Trump. He played a better campaign and the American people picked him as their president. Hillary sucked so bad and if Wikileaks wants to expose the truth about her then great. Russia forced nobody to vote for Trump. If you don't like foreign influences then why not complain about all of the money Saudi Arabia gave Hillary? I'm sure she bought some tv ads with that money.

Tim Allen is one of the few in Hollywood not afraid to say he supports Trump and yes Trump has created jobs. Who do you think is going to build his wall?
Again this Russia thing is ridiculous. Trump won and you're upset about that but seriously at least have a good reason to attack the guy if you hate him so much. The only hate I see is from the left who are a bunch of sore losers.

 

No vs your hope that there is something there.

 

Bullshit. Truth: Ongoing investigation with plenty of probable cause vs. willful denial. I'm waiting to see what they have to say; you're saying -against 17 intelligence agencies- that there is nothing there. Why you're assuming the position is beyond me. If the shoe were on the other foot, you'd be rabid. I said Hillary should have been indicted long before the election. Can you peel off your glasses?

 

You got it wrong of course the seventeen intelligence agencies claim Russia did it, they have not yet claimed Trump or his cronies colluded with them. These are quite different things and someone please tell me who these seventeen intelligence agencies are and why the hell we have seventeen of them to begin with to say nothing of seventeen of them with access to foreign intelligence gathering. And please how many of them have actually looked into it on there own and how many of them are just parroting what NSA and CIA said. I can only think of about 8 or 9 intelligence agency and that's probably more than most people here could manage. And only two of those would have both the cachet and the expertise and equipment to actually make that judgement.