A couple of questions for (Christian) Theists!

Hey.

This topic is meant to get some questions answered which are serious in nature. I never could figure them out from a theistic point of view and I hope some people here might be able to answer them. Although some questions might seem funny to you, I assure you they're not meant this way. I seriously would like to understand Theists and I'm hoping some answers might bring me closer to understanding.


1st question:

Why is the immortal life after death a good thing? According to Christian beliefs after we die, we wait for judgement day before it is decided whether we go to hell or heaven. Why is this sort of a future desirable to people, especially knowing that we all are sinners and end up in hell after judgement day? Nobody does follow the bible really. Whether it's something as simple as lying or not "loving your enemies" or something else.


2nd question: (if you believe in Creationism)

If God made two white people (Adam and Eve) in the middle of a jungle, why are there black, asian and other ethnic groups if there is no evolution. If you believe in the bible's teachings, then out of these two people the rest of the planets population descends. Hence if the first two where white, why are there so many ethnic groups after such a short time.


3rd question:

According to the bible the Christian God is a jealous God. So you must end up in hell if you pray to the wrong God. If there are "only" 1 billion Christians, do the rest go to hell? And since there are so many different groups among one Christianity, I always wondered what makes you sure that your version is the right one, and that other forms of the Christian belief like the Baptists, Evangelicals, Protestants, Anglicans, Orthodox, etc. are wrong. What if you happen to have the wrong Christian belief. Does this mean that out of 8 billion people only a couple million have at least the proper bases to get to heaven?
What happened to the people before Christ? Did all the Jews, Romans, Egyptians, etc. who lived before Christ go to hell because they prayed to the wrong god? And if so, what happens if the "true" version of the Christian faith hasn't emerged yet? People do believe that there will be a second coming of Jesus. Maybe all versions of Christianity are incomplete and wrong thus-far and sentenced for hell either way.


4th question:

According to the old testament the Jews are the chosen people by God. God helped them get out of Egypt and Moses lead them. Why was or maybe still is there anti-Semitism among Christians? Shouldn't the faithful people do everything for the Jewish community, and praise these people? Over the past 1700 years the Jews were given blame for everything that went wrong in Europe, and every 200 years (or less) some pogrom took place. Why did (and sometimes still do) Christians blame the "chosen people" for their own misfortunes?


5th question:

If Satan is such a bad guy and everything wrong is blamed on him, why does he continue to work for God? He was the angle who didn't obey and went his way instead of God's. Why would he torture people who didn't believe in God or follow God? If he's evil and doesn't follow God, shouldn't hell be a drunken drugged sex-club with a 24/7 happy hour?


If you have answers for me, please state the number of the question you're answering.

Thanks in advanced

 

Is there no one around who can answer any of these questions from a theistic point of view?

 

People choose to ignore these things. They get sick of answering and then getting called mentally deficient for doing so.

 

That's too bad and unfair I fear. This is supposed to be a forum for people to exchange ideas and opinions not judge each other.

I wouldn't know where else to get the questions answered. As an Atheist I don't keep close relations with priests or faithful people who might know the answers to my questions. I would be really grateful if anybody would adress any of my questions. If you prefer, send me a personal message.


This topic was never meant for attacking theists, but rather understanding them...

 

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/

I forced them to ban me as even the moderation over there is hateful.

 

What on earth has that old codswallop to do with Christianity?

 

its hard to believe you're actually asking these questions. If I wanted to know something, I would research it and come up with my own conclusions. Its been my experience that anyone that asks these types of questions are just looking to debate someone, which is fine, but just be honest about it.

 

I cannot register to that forum. It's been deactivated by an Admin. Maybe because I'm from another country, maybe because a spam-bot used my IP. I don't know. But this side I unfortunately cannot use

 

Hey he seems to want a heated discussion.

 

I'm looking for view points. I wish to understand people views on the matter.

I'm a historian by profession, so I want to understand Any research on the matter didn't give satisfying results.

 

what results did you come too?

 

Might I suggest a Bible with Strong reference, Concordance, multi-language (latin, greek, hebrew, aramaic, english (or whatever your native language is)) dictionary and some software like e-Sword.

Study and then you will have the answers you seek and not what others want you to know.

 

This is gone way off topic. Not everyone who asks questions has bad intentions behind them.
I did post my first question in Mitt Ryan's topic hoping for an answer. Now so much time passed, that I decided to make a new topic hoping to get some answers.


@ elijah: The only answer I've gotten so far was on the first question. The immortality of a soul seems to be a fact in the Christian believe, which is neither good nor bad. So I just got the answer that the immortality just "is" and there is no judgement to be made. Out of a atheistic point of view, the idea of the immortal soul has to be sold first. So I have a completely different approach on the matter, but the soul being immortal is still an interesting notion to me. I still do not understand the idea and the positive feedback it gets. I remember listening and never questioning the priests when they talked about the eternity, now anything eternal seems to go hand in hand with something negative - at least in my mind.

 

The fact that you want to discuss this with no plan of studying it means you really do not want to know. For the love of all; can you young people pick up a book instead of getting your information from people who may have never picked up a book themselves?

 

To understand the answer to your first question you need to become familiar with how life after death works.

Essentially, the human gene pool carries the genetic blueprint that has formed you as you are now.
But that same code is still flowing the veins of the people alive today, as it will also exist in all generations of our species hereafter.

You will be born again in the future, assuming that the species survives by having adapted to the ever changing constantly unfolding almighty force behind this Reality we are experiencing right now.

The kicker is that in time, we will have evolved such that we will have access into our own past through the memories collected in previous life experiences and held in our Unconscious mind.
But that will be a small thing compared to the coming relationship will have in that day when the kingdom of the whole Collective Unconscious mind is accessible to us.

 

The three sons of Noah where Cuacasian, Negroid, and Mongolian, which is called the Racial Stock from which the seven present genetically based racial differences became differentiated:

 

But this is the believe of reincarnation, one which is not shared by Christian beliefs, or am I wrong? This approach is more detailed than the one I got before. But my question remains to a degree. Why is an imortal soul - or in this case the reincarnation of oneself - a good thing? My life so far has been wonderful; I don't think I'd want to remember the heartache or pain of a previous life.

I must admit that I've never read the Quran or other teachings like Buddism. I merely read the bible and that was years ago. Maybe I have to read it again. Now as an adult I may see things differently and find more answers within than questions.

 

And this is why you don't ask such things on a forum.

 

This fully answers my 2nd question. Thanks!

I wish I could edit my fist post to credit you and scratch the question

 

You see that answer is not from the Bible. So now you are more lost than when you started.

If you take his answer to number one (DNA) and apply it to two it also does not jive.

 

Your first question doesn't represent Christian beliefs "we are all sinners and go to hell after judgement day."

Political forum isn't a great place for answers, that much I will do for you. The best advise I could give to you is to read William Barclay's 'The New Daily Study Bible (17 volumes covering the entire New Testament)' ...

 

I think you don't understand the point of this entire topic. I'm not after an atheistic or scientific point of view and I'm not here to argue against people of faith. I'm here to understand their beliefs within their religion. Since I grew up with Christianity it is really the only religion I can follow. My knowledge gaps in other religions are probably too big to even follow the answer. If someone else does answer according to their religion I do welcome it, but it may result in more follow up questions because my understanding might be limited.

The Noah-answer was perfect. What more do you want? Whether it contradicts or not is besides the point. It explains wonderfully how ethnic groups emerge within the Christian belief-system.

I've grown tired of people looking at the bad at everything. Try looking at everything positively. It beats the alternative as far as I'm concerned.

 

I think your questions are great OP, and I for one would be very interested in hearing how Christians on this forum would answer them. Sadly what I have found here is that most who would respond would see your questions as an attack on their religion and then retaliate by spitting venom in the guise of misinterpreted or improperly applied Bible verses... just my opinion though.

I suspect the answers to your questions are as numerous as the practitioners of the various Christ based religions.

 

Funny as that is the first time I have ever heard that. If you are serious you are in the wrong place. But I can see you are not because you are unwilling to actually read anything.

 

I sure hope that's true. It would be great to get more insight into their beliefs. But as you can tell, some prefer to criticize. Apparently they think that these are trick questions and I'm trying to make up my own mind.