A Culture of Cheating, food for thought

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thought t first you might be trying to make a legitimate point, but on reading your reference, I see you are just veiling a totally biased political slam.
    Shane on you- you are demonstrating the problem you complain of.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Totally biased political slam?

    He slammed both parties. You didn't read the article.

    Shame on you. Whatever spirits you might guide must be malicious ones.
     
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    Thanks for saving me the time.
     
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    Of course I read the article. Only I did it with out the filter glasses that you use. Perhaps YOU didn't read it well....

    "I speak here of the behavior of President Donald Trump (and his entourage), who, in less than three years in office has managed to brandish his particular aptitude for mendacity (the man is a habitual liar by any standard), bribery, obstruction, incitement and just plain disdain for all manner of rules. And this behavior has given license to others to act out their own disregard for both honesty and truth."

    At that point, the blame for all the bad actions of the left are added to the pile of things that Trump is alleged to be responsible for. He gave them the "License" , so they are not to blame for what they do. Apparently, Trump has but to push a button and people lose their self-control, wet their pants and become jackasses- do stuff like Maxine Waters telling followers to hunt down those of opposing views and run them out of anywhere.

    While you and the left insist on blaming Trump for the insidious hate you feel, as if he made you do what you do.... you reveal yourself. Responsible adults, mature men and women, know they alone are responsible for everything they think, say, do or feel. If you don't know that- others do indeed control you, but it's your fault- not theirs. Such is the left today. Total hypocrisy.

    You have just posted an article proving the bias of the left, the willingness to blame others for their emotions, proving where the real malice that is polarizing America is coming from.
    We hope that someday this disease will cure itself- but there is no sign of that happening anytime soon- or ever.

    There was a time when the democratic party was very respectable. That is gone- and factually, the old respectable party is dead. Denial of personal responsibility has taken it like a rabid disease, and I fear it will never return. As long as you believe others control you- as long as you refuse to take direct responsibility for your own conduct- They do.
     
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    Interesting and accurate article — I suspect the most vocal supporters of this culture of cheating and winning at all costs will come out to defend it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    And with this post sir, you have demonstrated beautifully how the right (if that's what you claim to be) is so deeply into denial and hero worship.
     
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    And you...... walked right by the billboard and never saw the sign. Trump must have blinded you with brilliance, while you try to baffle us with bullshit.
    Seems to be the standard DEM protocol these days. Try being reasonable and a little bit courteous to others. You would find communication and discussion is possible provided your first statement isn't a hateful insult.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's difficult to have genuine adult conversation with hero worshippers, especially when the hero is a man of low degree and pathological liar.

    I know that because many of my friends are Trump fans. They prefer to assign him hero status, and cannot see what he is really doing. They rationalize his crimes, and that makes honest discussion impossible. They can kid themselves, but they cannot carry on honest discussion.

    Lawrence Davidson offers excellent insight, but that works only for open-minded individuals. He correctly points out that both parties practice the fraud and deception.
     
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    I thought it was perfect, they guy complaining about what is essentially, dishonestly, accuses Trump of " bribery, obstruction, incitement and just plain disdain for all manner of rules," and then his side, the Trump-haters, could not find any crime, much less bribery, to include as an impeachment article. And then the author goes down the rat hole of biased interpretations of the issues to start Trump bashing.

    To sum up, if we do not swallow everything the author wants us to accept as his version of things, then we are cheaters, dishonest and essentially a basket of deplorables.
     
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    There you go using the term "we" again. Since you posted it, I knew there was no point in reading it. I assume it is simply anti-American.
     
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    I'll give you one point there. Politics as a whole invariably includes fraud and deception. Part of that is the character of the politicians- and a lot of it is the character of voters, who are unwilling to think for themselves. The real problem here is that "crimes" are being manufactured, genuine conduct made irrelevant. For example there is so much evidence that should be very high-confidence in terms of HRC's criminal acts one would think anybody would have strong suspicions and back investigations- but that's different, because they had planned to give her the office. If you are blind either way, you are equally responsible for the injustice it creates. Government cannot be any better than the people it governs. We set the standards of tolerance- and they do what we allow them to get by with.
     
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    I opposed the impeachment of Trump. No doubt he was framed. They accused him of the same things they all do.

    If they wanted some real charges, they should have charged him with giving aid and comfort to the enemy, Israel. Or they should have charged him with military aggression against Syria for attacking there without cause, or under false cause. But they too supported all that.

    He may be the biggest gator in the swamp, but all his accusers were simply smaller gators in the same swamp.
     
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    Yes, there is no doubt we have the government we deserve.
     
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    Golly you are so smart!!!
     
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    Trump mistakenly confessed, again.

    He’d save us a lot of time and money if he knew how to take responsibility for his actions. But, then again, he wouldn’t be the President.
     
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    What a croc. Blaming Trump for everyone that now lies.

    I speak here of the behavior of President Donald Trump (and his entourage), who, in less than three years in office has managed to brandish his particular aptitude for mendacity (the man is a habitual liar by any standard), bribery, obstruction, incitement and just plain disdain for all manner of rules. And this behavior has given license to others to act out their own disregard for both honesty and truth.
     
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    The culture of cheating is the Democratic mantra and has been for decades.
     
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    Which party is pushing legislation to make it easier to gerrymander and pick their voters? Which one recently had to redo an entire election due to fraud? Which party is sitting on election security bills even though our intelligence community is saying we need to do something to safeguard them?
     
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    Gerrymandering is an equal opportunity game. Everyone does it including the courts.
     
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    Politically biased Tripe


    To Invoke Trump in this discussion should
    pull on Hillary's record too for a message of
    Fair & Balanced, Not Politically biased Tripe.
     
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    Still cheating especially done to the extent as being done now.
    Noticed you skipped right over the other items, strange...
     
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    Yup. The same dems running around with their heads cut off screaming and about Russians hacking our elections, are doing all they can to block measures to prevent election fraud. This is just one small area where the dems continually contradict their own agendas and come off looking like lunatics.
     
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    What election security measures are Democrats blocking?
     
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    All of them.

    The list is much smaller to describe which election measures to reduce fraud that dems favor.
     

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