A False Dilemma, in Atheism

Why did he seed asteroids with the building blocks and amino acids...was it to mess with us like he did with those pesky Dinosaurs. That indeed points to an intelligent if trickster designer.

 

I am no longer going to post on this thread. I think we've said all that needs to be said, stated positions, and have not changed minds. More discussion is redundant.

 

A chimp never mutated into a man, but they had a common ancestor.

Think for a minute and you will see the long neck of a Giraffe demonstrates evolution.

 

Still waiting for you to prove God is real.

 

Many, many mutations are improvements. Intelligent design offers no explanatory value. It is a simply an argument from ignorance (I dunno, therefore God did it) disguised as a philosophy. And, no, the only options are not design and chance. Shuffle a deck of cards. See that monumentally unlikely outcome? It was neither design nor true chance.

 

Well, I do understand truth and facts better.

 

Yes, I think one of the problems with evolution is that people don't know how it works.

Giraffes certainly didn't evolve into zebras.

But, giraffes and zebras had a common ancestor. That ancestor got divided in some way - due to physical barriers such as mountains, food preferences, or whatever. That allowed that common ancestor to evolve along separate lines, changing characteristics as generations went by.

 

you and your buddies dove down that ludicrous rabbit hole before and in the end while taking your last breath as that titanic sunk posted your definition of religion and it does not say atheism is not a religion as you claim. So why do you continue to post such ridiculous falsehoods?

 

By definition it is not but by lefty radicals it is.

 

Believe me, I get it: you imagined the question could only have been rhetorical, so when you're confronted with a perfeclty straight answer, you have to pretend it's the opposite of what it is.

So the way you figure it, that qualifies as an answer to the question of whether morality is tied to a belief in God? Really??

That would be an exercise in stupidity, given that evidence of His existence is more easily accessible than the end of your nose.

Not for you, it isn't.

 

I’m an atheist.
One common misconceptions among believers about atheists is that they believe the god does not exist. While, in, summary this is true, in reality for atheists the idea of the existence of a god just doesn’t pass basic logic and scrutiny. So, atheism is not really a belief in non-existance, it’s more of a lack of belief in existence of a god.
Some basic philosophical questions that make god incompatible with reality:
if god created everything and everything needs to be created, then who created god? If god needed to be created, then he is not an all-powerful entity and there is an even more powerful force. Then, again, who created that force? Don’t push “god created self” - you can’t make something out of nothing like that, as creation requires conscious design and you can’t have that when nothing exists.
If god is all powerful, why can’t he convince all humans of his existence by revealing himself?
Why are dinosaurs not mentioned in the Bible? They were around much longer than humans.
If god is all powerful, why can’t he take down devil? Or maybe he isn’t that powerful after all?
Creation - god created light. Then is says there was night and there was day. That’s before earth was created. That’s impossible.
Creation - god created earth with humans on it in 7 days. Sorry universe was around for at least 13,000,000,000 years, earth was around for about 4,500,000,000 years. Humans were around for just 300,000 years. Bible didn’t show up till 2,000 years ago. That’s a bit inconsistent with the Bible, don’t you think?

And I’m just scratching the surface here. We go to a bar, have a few drinks and I’ll fire up a whole freight train of things that make no sense.

 

Dood weve been down this road and that is proven to be nothing more than word play, in other words semantics, a distinction with no difference in philosophy or law.

Like I said we have been down this road too, by definition is nonsequitur. The only people propagating that nonsense is the diehard atheists who cant face reality that their beliefs on the subject is a religion, and theists who want to feel superior to atheists with the idea they have something the other guy doesnt......[religion]

 

I think it is you who is clearly indoctrinated, perhaps you can stick to dealing with one topic at a time, atheism is simply a lack of belief in gods, nothing to do with evolution, the origin of life or anything else. Those are different subjects, you do not have to believe in anything, must be hard for you to understand.

 

And another theist who try's to tell others what they think so that they can hide their lack of faith!

 

Just like evidence for their god this is the question always ignored by theists spouting on about ID!

Always ignored because they have no theory!

 

That is really safe ground to say "I don't believe in anything"......oh but you do, you just don't declare. You don't exist in a vacuum. The godless impose their beliefs in a number of ways. They seem accountable to no one.

 

Hey, I’m open to believe in god. Just prove he exists! I’ll start going to church on sundays!
That’s the core of the atheists view - we know what we don’t know. We don’t pretend that something we can’t prove to exist exists. You prove to me your god exists and I’ll join your church, mosque or a sinagogue, whichever god is the real one.

 

An awful lot of assumptions made by you. Proving that you know nothing about what you spew and have no desire to learn.

 

But some did evolve from monkeys. We have evidence of that in you.

 

So you simply insist you know what others believe and carry on spewing forth! Typically Christian, if they cannot comprehend it then lie.

 

No matter how badly you wish otherwise, words mean things. By definition, atheism is not a religion. It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

 

no it isn't. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or gods. That's it. Lots of righty atheists as well as lefties.

 

Most Atheists do indeed believe in many things...for myself this includes what I see and experience for myself or things with enough data to convince me....Your God has no confirming data and much that is proven false, so I do not believe. That you do is fine just as a child does not know algebra....just do not attempt to tell me what I know.

 

Complains about "semantics." Offers nothing but semantics.

 

He has been told this multiple times yet his ego refuses to allow him to accept it.