A great book to explain UFO - CIA connection?

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL! :laughing:

    Well isn't that the way! Good explanation Dennis.


    By the way, don't listen to the people who declare that once we reach an advanced tech level and do away with limited resources that that will put an end to war and conflict.

    Such people are reality blind idealists.

    There are still separatists at the alien intelligence tech levels. Politics doesn't go away. And not everyone in alien societies feels they're being treated fairly, despite resource abundance and open elections in their society.

    Well, I say communication is key. When times look bleak that's the perfect time for them to try and open a channel of communications to the others and attempt to work out their differences.

    Who knows if they still have to fight but at least they gave peace, and a shot at equality, a fair chance.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, and if you're young and fit and the alien rebels start taking measurements of you because they're thinking about using Humans to fight in their war, because they only have about 6 months of staying power left, you really, REALLY want to encourage them to seek peace...

    Don't be blinded by their offer of technology in exchange for such a task.
     
  3. DennisTate

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    Wgabrie..... I admit that I have my own personal biases.

    I do realize that my own opinion that I have on this topic has been affected greatly by what I have read over these last four decades.

    But..... I do believe that beings from a higher dimension of space - time wish to bring peace both to this earth........... as well as to many alien species....... as peace is worked our here on earth?!

    I personally think that this particular near death experiencer was given some really good information on how long this will probably take.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
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    ...............
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well Dennis, we all have our biases. Coming from our own point of view and life experiences.

    When I was a child I thought there were beings that came from a higher place, and they could integrate themselves into people. And live a life with that person. And while they were there they acted as a gateway between our physical selves and the great beyond.

    And if one could focus enough and practice they could view out-of-body experiences. And even travel to other places and other times, mentally.

    And I thought I had mastered it by being able to see things that later happened. But then my brain deteriorated and that ability flew out the window...

    And around that time I had amnesia, so that didn't help matters.
     
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    But the end result is that you....... in my opinion..... are one of the most astonishingly well informed men that I have ever ran into on these discussions forms......… or anywhere else for that matter.

    I agree with you about beings from higher dimensions coming down with a person, at a point in time in our time line, one variation of this is called a Walk In.

    D. S. in posts 53-57 here describes parts of her near death experience where she was shown......… a reincarnated version of herself from five centuries in the future...… but she came into our time to assist us to have an easier transition over to a vastly different spiritual, economic, political, industrial, educational, etc., etc., environment on earth.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html
     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Dennis I feel like I'm leading you astray with my stories. None of them can be proven to be real.

    But that new age walk-in concept was interesting, where the original soul leaves the body and another soul takes its place either temporarily or permanently, this is the first time I've heard about it.
     
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    To whatever degree I am incorrect....... it certainly isn't your fault........ Many of these experiences could eventually come to be known to fit in perfectly with the "Philosophical Implications of Multiverse Theory?"

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...osophical-implications-multiverse-theory.html


    Now Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman is definitely somebody who got me going off in this direction with his article explaining how hypnosis may turn the human brain and mind into something of a "time machine?"

    Just Google....."Dr. Chaim Tejman, hypnosis, time" to see an article or two or three on this topic.
     
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    I have been confronted by so much seemingly contradictory information since I was a teenager in the '70's that I tend to flip flop back and forth on many quite large questions.

    For example.........… this idea of America and Canada being The Beast of Revelation 13, is a new idea that I only faced in this past year........after AboveAlpha presented such a powerful case that we have been given military technology that makes the tech of all other nations appear like toys for the sandbox...........

    .... but..... even this presents us with serious ethical questions??????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=428114&p=1065446386#post1065446386

    Canadians and Americans, are WE the Beast of Rev and....



    Is the G-d of Abraham about to prove H-s supremacy over all military technology by making fools out of us?

    Should we be taking those chariot wheels in the Red Sea much much more seriously?

    What about the UFO over the Temple Mount event of January 2011, was that a warning for us???????
     
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    No I don't think we're the beast of Revelations 13.
     
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    My old church the Worldwide Church of God still presents a powerful case that "The Beast" will arise out of the European Community??????

    I am not so sure any more....... but I suppose that I may be somewhat biased against WWCG teachings since......…


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=405527&page=6&p=1065487339#post1065487339

    ........My all time record for getting excommunicated - shunned - officially ostracized from churches is two.......... in little more than one month!

    Once I began to study near death experience accounts, I could no longer believe in a dogmatic "soul sleep" doctrine so I soon got myself booted out of the Worldwide Church of God and then out of the Philadelphia Church of God.

    They did me a favor though by booting me out of there.............. I would indeed have caused division...… frankly I advised WWCG Pastor Mr. G. Moore to boot me out..... because I am not very good at being quiet...… and just letting what I regard as serious problems be handled by God...… .much much much much later on......
     
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    I don't know what to say.

    ... That's religion?

    I see a potential problem if the soul sleep doctrine ends up not fitting the reality of any spiritual side of life, if it's ever discovered? Well, nobody knows the answer, so...
     
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    I would be especially interested to eventually see AboveAlpha's comments regarding 9-11.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=352425&page=21&p=1065546174#post1065546174

    Was 9/11 an inside job?
    Voters:79. You have already voted on this poll.

    Yes



    21.............26.58%
    ..................
    No



    59..........74.68%


    ..........................


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=352425&page=21&p=1065546193#post1065546193
     
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    It seems to me that we humans......… can form a religion out of almost any major event...… for example the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack........ and the "truth" around exactly what happened and why???????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/352425-do-you-believe-9-11-inside-job-why-20.html

     
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    Dennis, AboveAlpha posted on the 9/11 conspiracy form, frequently. Just go to advanced search at the top of this page, go to "Search Single Content Type" and put in AboveAlpha and the 9/11 forum. There are plenty of posts he made.

    As for this topic I think our mutual friend AboveAlpha just gave it the once over early in the discussion, and he's not coming back to this topic to see what became of it.
     
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    Dennis I don't quite remember what the book said about 9/11.

    I looked back on it and I don't think it said anything specifically about 9/11. I just saw that there was an implication that, in the past, governments have used false flag attacks as an excuse to go to war.

    Well, what would the USA be after with a false flag attack? Invade some fields and valleys in rural Afghanistan?

    Sure the government restricted our freedoms and launched invasive intelligence gathering techniques against everyone. But I don't know that they'd launch a 9/11 attack to do it.


    Well, anyway, I'm sure people who had some suspicion that an attack on the USA was imminent, but they couldn't do anything about it, would not be in the mood to talk about it afterwards? Well, there's only so much a person can do, so they shouldn't blame themselves. Blame the 9-11 hijackers and their masterminds behind the plot. It's their fault.
     
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    Wgabrie...… this is extremely helpful information to me...… I have never tried this before.... .but I think that I may do exactly this..... within minutes if possible!
     
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    I am now reading another chapter of SpiritRebel's book.

    He gives verification for Mr. Steven Kelley's campaign against fluoride.


    http://revolutionaryspiritualism.yuku.com/topic/393/03-WiH-Chapter-3-Conspiracies#.V4FzMlfA6UU

     
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    Dennis are you talking about this book???
     
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    What he wrote about the connection between psychic broadcasting and the assassination of President Kennedy was pretty shocking.

    This is partial verification for some of the most controversial statements in Steven Kelley's book.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/4...ltists-have-played-role-jfk-assasination.html
    Could psychic attack by occultists have played role in JFK assasination.
     
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    On the plus side I do actually believe that aliens with serious technology who are on the side of
    truth / light / love
    will play an important role in the ushering in of a utopian earth though.
     
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    Well Dennis, I often ask myself whether the aliens are good people. Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say no, but I think they're good, at least to themselves.
     
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    Perhaps like us.....
    they are making major improvements at this time.
     
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    After the thirty five minute mark in this audio interview
    assertions are made that fit with some of the most offensive
    statements in this book.

     
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    Yes....... but aliens and discarnate entities seem to get time lines mixed up and tend to be somewhat pessimistic and stuck on visions ......of A rather than THE....... future.........
    that had a very high death toll of humans from now until the year 2150 or so?

    I believe that that negative future did happen..... but we are NOT doomed to repeat it again and again and again like the first scenes in the movie Groundhog Day starring Bill Murray.

    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html
     

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