A logical and empirical look at Election Fraud in 2020

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  1. ToddWB

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    That's because the BIG LIE is that the Left needs to allow all the voter fraud to ever win anything. There is NO other reason to oppose voter ID.
     
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    but we know voter fraud is statistically zero, so any attempt to make it harder to vote, in the name of "combating voter fraud" is specifically designed to stop certain demographics from voting, because the GOP can't win an actual popular vote anymore because their policies do not appeal to the majority of americans.
     
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    To be honest, I believe it is more about narrative than anything. Both sides need a boogey man to point to. If they work together to fix the problems in our elections, they will have nothing to sling mud about.

    I mean the fix is simple. If you think people are falsifying their identity, have them provide ID. If they can't afford ID, give it to them for free. I just don't get the problem at all.
     
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    I see Mexican credentials para votar all the time..

    at one time I'd have protested a "national ID", but today I have some 3 or so different IDs already.
     
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    Again I just do not see the connection. How can you dismiss the concerns that voter ID is designed to address and so willingly accept an entirely new reason?

    I think both sides need voting fraud to drive a narrative, if not they would work together and try to reach a solution.
     
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    because voter fraud just isn't an issue. The only purpose for implementing voter ID and other restrictions is to decrease voter turn out.

    voter fraud just isn't an issue.
     
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    Hey, the Democrats are the ones playing up this disease, not me. I would be perfectly fine with holding the election in 2020--but without the massive absentee voting, which factually increases voter fraud by a factor of 50. There should have been in-person voting, with absentee voting essentially being limited to those serving overseas.



    I've said already that voter fraud is hard to identify, especially absentee voting. However, paradoxically, the number of confirmed cases of voter fraud by absentee voting is higher, because there is more of it to discover, which means the actual number is higher. Now compound that with the fact the we astronomically increased the amount of no-excuse absentee voting, watered down the regulation of letting observers observe by having them 6 feet away, and not having other regulation such as prohibiting counting when they left. This logically increases voter fraud and decreases detecting it, which, like I said, is already hard to identify to begin with.


    I believe the majority if not all of the counters have TDS, whether Democrat, Republican, or Independent.
     
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    How many times do you need called on this? Mail in voting is not 50 times more susceptible to fraud.





    Lol so no evidence of fraud means there’s lots of fraud. Makes sense.




    Yep. Couldn’t possibly be the fact that trump was incredibly unpopular and never once had an approval rating over 50% in his entire term. Yep, it’s a giant conspiracy involving trumps own DHS, his DOJ, his Attorney General, Republican Secretaries of State, Republican governors, every single court this went to (over 60), Republican appointed judges, Trump appointed judges and the entire Supreme Court
     

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