A majority of Americans oppose indicting Trump

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From Washpo: "How Americans view Mueller and impeachment ..." - excerpt:

    That perception could remain (or even worsen) before the next elections. But, even then and lest-we-forget, the last time around he also lost (by a margin of more than 2%) the election by a plurality of the vote in favor of Hillary.

    Which means that since nothing has been done to repair the cockamamey Electoral College vote (of First-Past-the-Post), then the same misguided EC-vote could cause him to win once again. (And I'll bet he's counting on it, because most Americans do not imagine how warped is his alleged-mind.)

    Given the Electoral College and Gerrymandering, there are not many supposedly "democratic republics) that can claim wrongly-but-proudly as Uncle Sam does to have a fair-and-honest electoral process ...
     
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    How about working with Trump on finding common ground, like infrastructure? You know the meeting Pelosi walked out on?
     
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    The reality.....Only 4 United States Presidents have ever had Articles of Impeachment drawn up by the House of Representatives. One President resigned before it came to the floor of the house, one resolution failed on the House floor. Two were acquitted in the Senate....That being known, what are the odds he will be removed, probably none. Impeachment is an administrative function for removal, not a criminal proceeding to find guilt or innocence. An Innocent President can be removed. Democrats, careful where you tread.
     
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    Why didn't the republicans work with Obama
     
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    Because Obama hated whites and made no effort to reach out to the GOP when he was inaugurated in 2009.
     
  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FACTUAL EVIDENCE

    You forget readily the results of the Mueller investigation.

    There was more than enough there for Donald Dork to be indicted. Whether he would be found guilty (by the Senate) is altogether another matter.

    The factual evidence:
    *The guy since a very young age has been inflicted with mental-narcissism. Such overwhelming self-centeredness does not constitute a real mental illness. Still, if a health check-up is necessary to run for PotUS, why not a mental-assessment as well? Narcissism is an illness that does not necessarily lead to a serious error of behaviour. Except when one is a PotUS with extraordinary powers.
    *The Mueller investigation has found sufficient evidence of "due cause" for a court trial. He should be indicted, and of course the Replicant Senate will find him "Not Guilty".
    *Then we can get on to the presidential election next year, when his outcome will be finalized. People will vote today anyway affected somewhat by the Mueller Study - whether others like you prefer it or not.
    *And I, for one, will be one Yank very pleased NOT to live in the US if he gets reelected.
    *You, plural, have gone bonkers if you cannot see the VERY EVIDENT inappropriateness of both Gerrymandering and the first-past-the-post rule of the Electoral College. As I never tire of saying, no other developed-country on earth has replicated the "Amerikun Way" to mis-elect a PotUS. For some very, very evident reasons. One of which is quite simply that,
    *Donald Dork clearly lost the national popular-vote by a significant margin of 2.1% of the popular vote and should never have become PotUS. Which demonstrates clearly that
    *We must change the voting-rules at the state level such that the Electoral College REPORTS ONLY TO CONGRESS THE RESULTS OF THE POPULAR-VOTE!
    *As do most other republican-democracies on earth that never adopted the idea of an Electoral College voting ... !
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Such specious nonsense but simply put the STATES elect the President of the United STATES there is not and never has been a national election. We are not other countries and they is not us and I can't think of one we should be emulating.
     
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    Few people care what a foreigner thinks of our system.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    This is the kind of pure, bald faced and unabashed LIE we have to contend with. TRUMP walked out of that meeting and has SAID he did. He even had a NEWS CONFERENCE set up right there and ready, Yet his minions are dutifully spreading this tripe everywhere.
     
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  10. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is useless to refute the Replicants. Their vision of what is happening is jaundiced.

    Learn to live with it because nothing-can-be-done for as long as the Dems cannot win control of all three elements of government (Executive, Legislative and Judicial).

    And we all know why an Replicant PotUS who LOST THE POPULAR-VOTE is trying to stuff the Supreme Court (with its lifetime tenures).

    We, the sheeple, wanted it because we did nothing to stop it - so we got it coming ...
     
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  11. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BEAUTIFUL DREAMING

    In fact, we could stop it. Here's how:
    *A part of the Democrat Party must break away, to form
    *A Social Democracy Party that votes uniformly for more Social Services (being proposed by Bernie and Elizabeth),
    *Which a government of Democrats and Social Democrats could allow.

    But, all that is Beautiful Dreaming in a country that is fixated on the notion of Get Rich, Get Rich, Get Rich! And do it quickly!

    So, instead, off you go to by a lottery-ticket. Didn't your parents ever tell you that "life-is-a-lottery"?

    In America, they should have done so ...
     
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    Most Americans want Trump twisting in the investigative winds up to the day the electorate throws him out of office.
     

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