A Memeory From The Past And Why Training Children Will Reduce Gun Accidents

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Had lunch with my cousin and we where discussing firearms and the current political situation about banning firearms as it exists in America.

    He reminded me of an experience I forgot about, but once reminded became quite clear when where pre-teens.

    Our parents on Saturday would hire a "baby sitter" to watch us, make dinner and at 9:00PM send us to bed.

    Nice lady, but made it very clear that she had a gun in her purse, not legal at the time, but totally accepted by law enforcement.

    She also made it clear if either of us touched that gun we wouldn't be able sit down for the night.

    We knew better, our homes where full of guns and while we where allowed to use them while supervised, we understood any possible gains of touching that firearm would be totally outweighed by any gains of touching it.

    Morale of the story.

    Teach children to respect the power of a firearm, firearms are not evil, they are tools which all of us have a right to use.

    Teach don't touch one, without an adult supervising.

    And allow them to use one, that is the only way they will learn gun safety and how to use one properly and safely.
     
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    Children should not be allowed anywhere near a firearm. That way new generations may be gun-free. Like children of chain smokers staying away from tobacco.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Matters not, they still must be taught to be gun safe.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only safe gun is locked in the armoury and if children's eyes ought to be spared sexual acts and pornography so too should children's hands be kept a million miles away from any gun. Guns don't usually load themselves and "go off" without some idiot twitching his fingers near the trigger. It ain't the guns that kill ..... it's the American (more often than not) who holds the thing and pulls the trigger who does the killing.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You simply don't get it, do you?

    And Americans have a much lower rate of gun murders than the nations around us.

    Your simply an uninformed or worse yet media programmed anti-gunner.

    Now do me a favor and pollute some other thread with your progressive/liberal bull crap.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    If training to ensure firearms safety holds no legitimate value, why are law enforcement officers and military personnel subjected to such extensive training when it comes to handling and using firearms?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny, I'm thinking it is your view that "don't get it". What is the problem? When guns go off something or someone gets a hole in it him/her. Simple, yes?
    Golly! That would be nice to believe because as it is ......

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    ... but it says here .....


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    I'm just trying to lend a helping hand, my friend. It makes me sad to see so many Americans getting their guts blown away ... particularly your children.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With false charts. Really?

    Lets look at he actual numbers.

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    One part of being a parent is teaching life skills, survival knowledge (across the spectrum), ethics and responsibility. Guns aren’t going to magically disapear from the earth and the militaries disarm. I believe in arming (pun intended) children with knowledge and to wield that knowledge ethically and responsibly.
    The most dangerous and deadly thing wielded by anyone is ignorance, followed closely by having a lack of ethics and personal responsibility.
    Knowledge tempered by ethics and responsibility is power.
     
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    That is really stupid. Teach children how to handle guns and they will know how to handle them safely. The liberals want to keep their kids away from guns and kids are naturally curious so if they come across one they are more likely to get hurt. Liberal logic 101.
     
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    You are using false charts. Really. But I realize you didn't falsify them yourself so I forgive you for getting sucked in.
     
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    That is not a false chart it is a corrected chart of one that was posted in the NYT, the author of the original chart deliberately left out a number of countries, because if he had not so his chart would not have supported his narrative, the corrected chart included those previously excluded countries and the chart I posted is the result of doing such.

    Unfortunately some, such as yourself, lack the ability to seek out the truth, preferring to spew the party line.
     
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    And the American Academy of Paediatricians would disagree

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    https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/5/e1416
     
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    Yes the USA does look OK when it is only compared to third world countries
     
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    Pigs are intelligent, clean, and 'civilized' creatures but when they are penned inside of a mud-hole and given no food they will eat one another, crap all over the place and eat that too.

    Americans should probably be asking themselves why they behave so primitively compared to the rest of the so-called "western world" and if the reason is external or fostered domestically.

    The point you have made is a good one ..... "life skills, survival knowledge, ethics and responsibility". Applying those attributes is highly relative to the reality that one creates. Jeese, I hate using cliches and idioms but .... hey .... I have no choice right now: "He who lives by the gun dies by the gun" and that applies to the environment as well.

    For the benefit of the peanut gallery (whose heads I've just now spoken above), this means that the American population has no one to blame but themselves for wearing the wool over their eyes while Mr. American businessman (in this particular case the arms manufacturers) and his partners in crime (the American politicians) are getting fatter by the day.
     
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    Which most of those are not.
     
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    It clearly states “children and young adults” and the age range was to 21

    Don’t like those figures?

    They are from a very valid source
     
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    It's not a valid source when they pad the number to match the narrative.
     
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    I have a better idea. Give your children a better education and teach them how to speak English properly instead of sloughing through life exclaiming, "Ya' know" ... "basically" ... "Like" .. "You know what I mean" .... then they won't need guns to express themselves when someone disagrees with them.
    Perhaps your countrymen should employ better teachers so they might improve their own logic. That way they won't need to blame all of their frustration on those imaginary "liberals" and "conservatives". The typical Ameican "With us or against us" indoctrination has kept Americans tied up for a long, long time now. Don't you think your countrymen deserve to break free from the 'black or white' confines of voluntary ignorance?
     
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    They are very open when they say “children and young adults” so how are they “padding” that definition?

    Surely the AAP knows what it is talking about

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    "Corrected chart". :laughing: You mean 'corrected' as in an amendment (the 2nd. as an example) which is meant to eradicate a mistake ... or 'correction' as in "re-write", "revision", "cover-up", or "to falsify"?
     
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    The thread is about making children gun safe so please stop polluting it with your anti-gun propaganda.

    The AAP knows nothing about gun safety so their opinion here is irrelevant.
     
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    A rather interesting citation, seeing as the group that is supposed to represent physicians specialized in caring for minors, is actually stating the best course of action is to remain ignorant rather than knowledgeable.

    They are basically promoting the firearm equivalent of abstinence in sexual education, when abstinence itself is dismissed out of hand as being a worthless approach.
     
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    Anyone over the age of eighteen is legally recognized and categorized as an adult. Therefore a group dedicated to the subject of pediatrics, is devoid of a legitimate reason to be including them in either their findings or their presentations.
     

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