A message from Adam to all mankind by Rick Joyner.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is only fair that I warn you Sir that
    I quoted you over here.... and bolded and enlarged your
    words in such a way that could really anger some of the other
    posters in the forum.

    I am 99.999% certain that you can both handle...... as well as basically enjoy.....
    whatever trouble I have gotten you into!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=376736&page=64&p=1066887538#post1066887538


    Thread: Science Reconsidered
     
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    He said, this generation shall not pass away! What you fail to realize is when He says this generation, he is referring to all those who come after Christ. Since Jesus sacrifice on the cross, we are all the generation of Jesus Christ. The New Testament, The New Covenant, or the New Law's. Stop taking scripture out of context in a manner which fits your personal narrative.

    KJB-
    Matthew 24:

    1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

    2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

    3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

    4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

    5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

    6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

    8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

    9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

    10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

    13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

    15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

    16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

    17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

    18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

    19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

    20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

    21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

    22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    25 Behold, I have told you before.

    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

    33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

    43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

    44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

    45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

    46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

    47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

    48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

    49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

    50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

    51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
     
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    That's funny! Actually if man does not destroy each other first, science will eventually prove God. Of course I think we would destroy each other long before that.
     
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    On the other hand......
    didn't all the species of dogs on the earth originate from wolves......
    some of which where about eight feet or so at the shoulders a number of thousands of years ago?
     
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    But in TrevorW2539's defense...there is a real possibility that the G-d that we prove may be far, far, far, far less concerned about religion than we religious types tend to imagine????


    http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

    On the other hand..... I am a Christian who
    admits that the Levites and Rabbinic Jewish community must somehow fulfill every word in Ezekiel 40 - 48....so some aspects of some religions will continue.......
     
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    Yes, for dogs the wolf would be the only one that needed to be on the ark, and from the wolf come all different types of dogs.

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    Yes, I don't think God looks at it as a religion, rather the TRUTH or just the way it is. Whatever religion people wish to worship outside of the God of Abraham/Israel, would be no different than worshipping the golden calf.
     
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    All the way thru Isaiah he refers to Israel as the servant of God.. the suffering servant of God as if Israel was a single man. Same thing in Mark when the maniac says I am Legion.. Legion represent ALL of Israel infected with demons .. the Roman occupation.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Phenomenal answer jrr777!

    Either you are already at it.... .or you are astonishingly close to what
    some truly gifted people might term "Cyrus Consciousness."

    I personally..... .believe that the Being of Light who met with former Atheist Howard Storm
    was none other than Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in his eternal, glorious body......
    speaking plainly of the Father.... as promised in John........

    and the fact that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus truly loves Atheists......
    as is.... where is.... full of flaws and anger issues.........

    is a good example of what could be referred to as Cyrus Consciousness......
    that is elaborated on in Isaiah chapters 42 - 46/
     
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    New Age Christianity.....
    has some serious advantages over Orthodox Christianity......

    This book can assist greatly in bringing peace between Jews, Christians and Muslims......
    no kidding.... just read pages 137 - 170 and you will know what I mean......



    https://books.google.ca/books?id=kbiGjKJl4D4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
     
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    I believe that exactly this eventually will be discovered.........
    and then some......
    but......


    Over two million views on this already..... Tom Horn is well informed.... but if somebody disagrees 180 degrees with every word spoken by somebody like Balaam........ that can be a problem.... because prophets like Balaam are NOT incorrect about everything that they write and think.

    The Masons are probably attempting to bring down the ArchAngel of Esau.... in order to usher in the ArchAngel of Joseph / Yosef....... which could well be partly correct.


    MUST WATCH! Human Animal Hybrids Exist! | Tom Horn on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!
     
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    Yes pretty powerful stuff. "It will take many lifetimes to undo the error of ages".
     
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    Former Atheist Howard Storm was shown though that the world would be utopian by the year 2185...... which sure was nice to know......

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

     
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    Yes.... I would definitely like that....
     
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    Actually...... you are correct about this.......
    the wealthy will soon be able to afford astonishing treatments.......
    but very poor people are going to experience signs and wonders that will
    amaze all Skeptics......... including you Sir!
     
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    Dennis, what you posted by Rick Joyner is a fraud because it does not guide us in discovering how to "overcome, even as I have overcome". In fact, it doesn't even lean in that direction. All it does is keep us in bondage.
     
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    Well.... it does help many of us to take a few steps toward
    forgiving our great, great, great, great Grandfather Adam..... and our great, great, great, great Grandmother Eve?!

    If I were to guess who Pastor Rick Joyner might perhaps be the reincarnation of.... it would be Cephas / Peter. The book gives me a vibration similar to Acts 10.... continued and continued and continued.........

    I believe you will get a laugh out of this other discussion Kode:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/auditions-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/
     
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    Have you heard the testimony of former Satanist
    John Ramirez yet?

    It is profoundly encouraging how profoundly he changed
    and how zealous he is for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus now.

    The man is fearless!
     
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    It helped me personally to become more free than I was before......
    and gave me a way to explain NDE accounts to my wife...... who
    is suspicious of some of them.
     
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    I do not agree with the primary point, in the OP's cited article. Our responsibility, to God, for ourselves, does not extend from our authority over ourselves; it extends from His authority over us.

    In relationships between equals, one's responsibility for them self extends from their authority over them self. These are commonly referred to as 'free-will' relationships. These can only occur between equals. However, in relationships between sovereigns and subjects, the subject's responsibility for them self extends from the sovereign's authority over them.
     
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    Good points.... but I betcha that King Saul
    made sure that General Abner and his son Jonathan were NOT in the room
    when he set up Doeg the Edomite to kill the priests at the town that had aided King David
    in his escape?

    General Abner or Jonathan might have killed Doeg...... before he did what he did......
    if they had been there.............. and knew about what was being planned.


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1sa/21/7/s_257007

    1Sa 21:7


    Now a certain man of the servants of Saul was there that day, detained before the LORD; and his name was Doeg, an Edomite, the chiefest of the herdmen that belonged to Saul.

    .....

    1Sa 22:17

    And the king said unto the footmen that stood about him, Turn, and slay the priests of the LORD; because their hand also is with David, and because they knew when he fled, and did not shew it to me. But the servants of the king would not put forth their hand to fall upon the priests of the LORD."
    .....

    1Sa 22:18

    And the king said to Doeg, Turn thou, and fall upon the priests. And Doeg the Edomite turned, and he fell upon the priests, and slew on that day fourscore and five persons that did wear a linen ephod.


    Even in a Monarchy.... it is possible to have certain people who function at a much higher level of ethics.
     
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    We are in the second day of Rosh ha Shanah now..... this is the birthday of Adam.
     
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    Says who? How does anyone know?
     
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    Good question........ Jewish scholars have access to books that have not been made available to the general public yet.

    A few centuries ago an astonishingly brilliant text was found that was preserved into our time period only in Arabic. (I assume that we Christians have burned every other copy of that book in all other languages).

    If you would like to know more about the life of Adam I highly recommend this ancient writing. I have read it several times:

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
     

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