A new method to elect justices to the supreme court?

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new method to appoint supreme court justices?

  1. Yes - This idea seems viable

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  2. No - This idea is terrible

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  3. I prefer a partisan court - I lean right

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  4. I prefer a partisan court - I lean left

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    I was listening to a interview from the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

    He had what I thought was a pretty interesting proposal for a way to re-imagine the way we currently appoint justices to the court.

    I believe the current method, in this day and age has become utterly partisan and toxic, and overall bad for our general society.

    His idea was this.


    Expand the court to 15 justices.

    The democrats appoint 5 justices.

    The republicans appoint 5 justices.

    The remaining 5 justices will be appointed by the 10 members of the court, ONLY with an absolutely 100% unanimous vote among all 10.

    I thought it seemed like an intriguing idea. What do you think?
     
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    I think it stinks.
     
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    A complete non-starter.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Okay. Why?
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
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    Outside of the fact that it would require a Constitutional Amendment (which would be all but impossible), but even if it cleared that hurdle, I see zero chance of 10 justices with a 5/5 ideological split adding another justice by unanimous agreement.
     
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    While I likely agree with your first point, I am not so sure about the second point. But in and of its self, do you think the idea would be a better practice as opposed to how it is done now?
     
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    At a minimum 1/3 of the SCOTUS would be activist judges who legislate from the bench.

    That's one of the biggest problems we have today in the SCOTUS and with the other federal judges, political activist legislating from the bench.

    We have just witnessed a couple of federal judges who have become obstructionist judges.

    Allowing ten of the Supreme Court Justices to pick the other five justices makes the SCOTUS political and open to corruption.
    We already know how corrupt the DNC is.

    What needs to be asked is how to purge the federal judges from the bench who refuse to interpret the intent of the Constitution and laws of the land that were passed by Congress.

    Any judge who obstructs the executive branch of government from enforcing the laws passed by Congress should be purged from the bench.

    Judges who have obstructed or are political activist must be removed from the courts.

    If any judge who wants legislate, he or she should turn in his black robe and run for political office.
     
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    So what happens when there are no more Republicans or Democrats? I dont see and whig party candidates popping up any longer.
     
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    Why? Are you dissatisfied with Trumps picks?
     
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    Im dissatisfied with the damage that the current process inflicts upon America.
     
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    Would you be just as dissatisfied in all nine justices were liberal?
     
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    The founding fathers are smarter and better than anyone around today. Leave things alone.
     
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    Yes. Because that would not be reflective of America's political make up. The damage that would do to our society would be unbelievable.
     
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    Well right now with Roberts leaning left, the court is very balanced. Best use your prayers for Ginsburg.
     
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    I don't want a balanced supreme court. I want a supreme court that follows thr constitution and is highly suspect of precedent and is willing to undo bad law.
     
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    Then you can stop praying for Ruth Bader Ginsburg and hope she retires with a few gallons left in her tank.
     
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    In the current iteration of the court, I would support growing Ginsburg anything she needs in a clone vat, and barring that, ill donate my own organs. :)
     
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    I think your agenda is very clear. Donating one's own organs is over the top but as long as you are willing, I hear both her lungs are in need of replacing.
     
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    So the idea is to make the court even more overtly partisan than it is now?
     
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    An entire thread dedicated to the idea that the Supreme Court could be coopted to the political agenda of the left. The left don't want democracy anymore. They want authoritarianism/maternalism that demands your obedience to them/(the state).
     
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    if peeps want fairness, then i'd suggest a rotating selection, ie: pubs just got to select the latest scotus, the very next seat available should then be selected by the dems, then the next goes back to the pubs, so on & so on... it shouldn't be chosen by the prez...

    that's right, no selection for the 'other' factions, as most lean dem anyways...
     
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    Prior to 2016, the OP was probably thinking that the Supreme Court was just fine and dandy, but after Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, he now thinks it needs revamping.

    Such is the liberal way. Lose an election by an electoral college landslide, and the electoral college needs to be done away with. Have a couple of conservative judges appointed to the SC, and the SC needs to be revamped.
     
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    Wouldn't you ???
     
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    I think this would actually eliminate the partisanship.
     

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