A new study confirms that gun ownership increases the risk of suicide.

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    No! Sins have degrees of severity.
     
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    Ethical judgement can not be proven or disproved. I believe Society has a duty to help all people in need of help. That includes poor people, disabled people, and people prone to self-harm.
     
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    Not really. More like Fentanyl dealers are responsible for fentanyl deaths.
     
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    In correct the falt lies with the person who took the drug, the same as someone who kills themselves, and society should not waste resources on such hopeless people, let em die and move on, the world is better off without them.

    The same with people who are too lazy to work, society should not be forced to support them, once they starve enough they will get off their arse and go to work.
     
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    Prove such to be the case, not simply in one religion, but across all religions that have been referenced on the part of yourself.
     
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    Why is such believed? Why is it believed that society at large is responsible for those who will not take care of themselves, and who cannot refrain from committing harm to themselves?
     
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    Most people who take drugs suffer Severe Depression. They do not get the help they need and fall into a pattern of self-destruction.
     
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    Because most who will not actually can not.
     
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    Then get out of the way and let them kill themselves.
     
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    And society at large is ultimately the reason why such is the case, as it determined the bottom line, that being money, is of more importance than the lives of those in need of help. That is the reason the appropriate mental health facilities have been closed down for decades, and why efforts at raising revenue to reopen them via new taxes are resisted so bitterly.

    Society does not care about its so-called "responsibility" to care for those in need, and it is not going to make any effort to change that fact. Therefore the infantile begging of those who cannot accept such cold, hard facts of reality, will amount to nothing whatsoever.
     
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    I am 100% against Society abandoning people in need. Social Darwinism is Evil.
     
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    Sadly American Society has long shown disregard for Human Rights.
     
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    That's just you and in the larger picture you don't matter.
     
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    Do you blame Newton for the jumpers?
     
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    Some people need help defending themselves from physical harm caused by others intent on harming them.
     
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    The world itself is filled with evil of every shape and definition. Get over it and stop denying that such is the reality of the world in which you and countless others live.
     
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    And such is not going to change. Society has spoken, the will of the majority has spoken, and individuals such as yourself and countless others with mental illnesses, have been deemed as being fit to die and be forgotten about, provided with neither help nor even recognition. No one is going to provide yourself with anything, other than the opportunity to end your own existence, and the advice to do so out of sight so that they do not have to acknowledge it.

    This is the state of things in the united states, and are as immutable to the real world as the need for oxygen in order to live. There is no changing this, so there is no further point in continually begging for mercy from those who have provided the metaphorical kicking in the face, in the desperate hope that enough begging will cause them to have a change of heart.
     
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    A firearm is arguably the fastest, most painless way to commit suicide. What this tells you is how despondent people have become over the demonic politicians' increasing oppression. I'm talking about democrats exclusively. They are ****, and they should be thrown out of office. That's what the data is saying. Don't blame firearms. That's just political lies behind which your oppressors hide. If people give up their guns, nobody will commit suicide because the politicians will do it for them via goon squads ... and you see how goon squads work. Right?
     
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    Sad but true. But millions and tens of millions people in need of help do mater.
     
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    Guns are rarely used in self-defense. About 1% of all homicides are justifiable.
     
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    The World is improving. Child Mortality and Poverty in all places in 1800 was worse then anywhere in 2020.
     
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    Horrible as it is, I hope things will change.

    In 1780, Slavery was considered unchangeable.
     
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    Thank G-d and my parents, I do have support. Sadly, millions of others do not.
     
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    Both Democratic and Republican platforms have enormous flaws.
     
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    Neither of which are even remotely true.
     

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