A Presidential press conference ... or not

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  1. PeppermintTwist

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    Another Trump defender that would thank Trump for stealing from him if afforded the privilege of going to Trump University or being one of the contractors that rendered services for Trump and got stiffed by the swindler-in-chief. Pretty unbelievable!
     
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    Still supports my case. He hates the media because they screwed him over, although they ultimately lost their own game. It's his big FU to them.

    He acted as a person who knows the very people complaining about him are the ones who lied, manipulated and attempted to screw him. He owes them nothing in return.


    It shouldn't have told you any of those things since I don't think any of them. He's not participating in filling their coffers by giving them anything. They screwed up and he's making them pay. I find it quite genius myself and liberals everywhere can't stop crying about it, acting as if they forgot how unethical the very media they so love really is.

    That's why it's genius. He gets even with them every day by doing absolutely nothing. That's the entire point of the lack of press conferences.

    I voted for him as an act to NOT vote for Hillary. I'm not a big Trump fan, but I know the details of why he hates the media so strongly. They were caught red handed and now have never relented from trying to tear him apart because they know he'll never play along. It's just funny to me. I personally despise the media as well and have for years been telling my parents how horrible MSNBC, CNN and Fox are, but they won't listen. Now they hear more sides of it and can actually see why I was right all along. Trump is just making that same information mainstream so others can come to realize how awful the media is and how biased they have always been on both sides.[/QUOTE]

    Two things we agree on. He detests the media, and he is afraid of it. That is why he hasn't held a press conference since February. We both think he would be unable to control the press conference. Subsequently, he avoids them unlike every modern President before him.

    Why is he afraid of the press? Is it because the press reveals the truth about his Presidency, his consistent lying, inability to keep good help, his constant criticism of the press, actions that appear to make him look guilty of obstruction and/or collaboration with a hostile foreign power, and his infantile, paranoid, and downright moronic tweets? I don't blame him one bit for being frightened of the press.

    Yes, we are in agreement again. He is acting like a person, not a President. He supposedly leads this powerful, free nation. He is not supposed to act like Joe Sixpack. He is supposed to be better than that and act like the leader of this great country.

    We are in agreement. He can't.

    Explain to me how the media is unethical? The fact of the matter is, the media uses his decisions, statements, and tweets as the basis for the reports. Trump and his followers hate that. Pretend I am the media. It is warranted. I use the media for my articles. Please explain how I have been unfair to Trump. By telling the truth?

    "I know the details of why he hates the media so strongly. They were caught red handed." Explain that statement in detail. Be specific.

    Trump's supporters throw out statements like these, statements filled with innuendo and speculation. They do it because the White House, radical House Republicans, pro-Trump pundits, and Fox News does it. All are short on details. Except for events long ago and.or events already dealt with months and years ago, there are no details.

    Prove me wrong. What are the details you are talking about?
     
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    Except we don't agree. I don't think he fears them at all. He pokes them in the eye daily by ignoring them.

    You only assume he's afraid of them. I can't answer a "why" question about an assumption.

    On that one I mostly agree. I expect more than I see from him, especially via tweets. But I like that he tries to speak to the people instead of to the media, but I wish it were more professional and more about real issues instead of personal BS.


    By conspiring with the DNC, intentionally, to screw over a candidate for president. They planned, implemented, and failed. They're 100% dishonest at that point so anything they do today is meaningless to me. They can't overcome being unethical.

    I already did. Their conspiracy to pump him up so he could defeat other Republican candidates worked beautifully. Their plan failed when he STILL beat their candidate in the general. When the media works with a single political party, they're dishonest, unethical and untrustworthy. If you still have any confidence in them, then you've bought into the very message they fabricate for you often.

    You can't pretend what really happened didn't actually happen. It doesn't work and ignoring the truth doesn't help your case. They were caught and still can't dig out of it. Trump reminds them daily by completely ignoring them. In that, I agree with him 100%.
     
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    Hey peppermint, study Trump's background and you will find he was raised to be a winner and an aggressive one at that. He will exaggerate or lie to present himself in a better light, he will boast to make sure everyone knows what he has accomplished, and he will almost never admit fault or guilt. He's an alpha male. He's a fighter and winner.

    And that's exactly what America needs as a leader to take our country back from the liberal & socialist & globalist mindset that has been destroying the country over the past few decades. These anti-Americans are within both political parties and we need a farking bastage of a leader to defeat them and make America great again.

    So your post is a great sign from above. The more angry you get, the more I know Trump is doing the right things. You can't win. We have God & Trump on our side. :)

    --pete--
     
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    You are not using your basic common sense. Your blind, mindless loyalty to Trump is overriding the grey matter in your head.

    Trump held a press conference in February. He lost control of the event while losing his cool. His anger was evident. There are reams of evidence that he may be guilty of obstruction and/or collaboration with the enemy. He has not held a press conference since and he prefers noise-filled, short-lived news conferences on the lawn.

    Logic and common sense dictates that he is afraid of holding a legitimate press conference. Jeez, if you can't see that you are blind.

    He gets his rocks off by ignoring reporters, by pushing his weight around. Yeah, I believe that, the petty S.O.B. Quite typical of Trump. He doesn't realize that he is just making an ass of himself.

    And a coward. Americans don't respect a President who runs from reporters and refuses to answer questions.

    I followed the media coverage of the election on a daily basis, and I have no idea what you are talking about. Still another vague characterization straight from the pages of the Trump playbook without any details.

    Trump was low on campaign cash. The news media portrayed him as a communication genius. He appeared on the national news every single day for one reason or another. He didn't have to pay for coverage. He got it for free from every major network. Remember now?

    Now give me the details of the conspiracy between the networks and the DNC. Does Trump's playbook or Fox give you any of the details?

    I thought not. I watch Fox daily. They, too, speak in vague generalities when it comes to this issue. It is the same with their stories about bias within the FBI, innuendo and speculation and short on details because the details are embarrassing. .
     
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    Hahaha. You just don't understand Trump's strategy. The media is so biased against Trump because it's mostly controlled by the liberals & those with a global agenda. These are the very same people out to destroy America from within and change a once great country into a socialist nation in a new global market place.

    Yeah, Trump is 100% correct in saying that the media is the enemy of the American people. I've known this for decades and finally someone with POWER has the honesty & guts to not only say it, but fight against it. So anyone who actually believes Trump is somehow hiding from the media or making an fool of himself is only self deluded because his strategy is purposeful to not give his enemies ammunition to use against him. Sarah Sanders deals with the media while Trump makes progress in the background.

    So Trump Tweets directly to the America people and the media HATES IT! They can't control him, so the best the dishonest media can do is critique his tweets. Then you have the "useful idiots" that join in on that game. All while Trump laughs & smiles in the background while he reverses course and undoes decades of progress that the leftist global socialists had accomplished. Trump's effort to make the country great again are succeeding while the Obama, Clinton, and Bush families and other globalists are weeping and gnashing their teeth.

    I love it. It's the GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH! :) :) :)

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    Again, I only voted for Trump to keep Hillary out of the WH. I don't have a loyalty to him, nor am I his biggest fan. However, I also don't just tout the liberal mantra in every post without thinking things through. My head is quite clear on Trump and I call it as I see it.

    Ok...when we see that evidence followed by charges, I'll agree. So far we haven't seen that evidence. What we have seen is that the FBI is tainted and Mueller doesn't have clean hands either. Not impressed.

    No, YOUR common sense dictates that. I don't think he's afraid. He's also not a polished statesman and admittedly didn't do well in February, but that doesn't mean he fears the media. It would take him telling someone, or hinting to that effect, for you to know that to be true. Neither has happened and you can't stand the fact that he snubs your precious liberal media. I see it as delivering the justice they deserve, although they deserve significantly more.

    Or it makes him pretty intelligent since the only ones bent out of shape are his political enemies and liberal voters. Seems like a good idea from outside looking in.

    You mean the ones who just wash, rinse and repeat all the liberal talking points like you've done here?

    Well there's a surprise! You watched the same liberal media that lied to you for many months about poll numbers. Take a gander over to Wikileaks and check out Podesta's emails. The info's in there if you choose to look.

    YES!! That's what I've been telling you this whole time. They gifted him with tons of free airtime AS THE COLLUSION WITH THE DNC TO SCREW HIM OVER!!! THAT was the plan the whole time!!! You finally at least admit to witnessing it. They did it intentionally and in collusion with the DNC. No other Republican got anything near what he got. Now you understand?!?! They did it to HELP HIM beat the other Republican candidates in the primaries because they mistakenly saw him as easiest for Hillary to beat. That's why I said she lost her own fixed election several posts ago. Thank goodness you at least admit to knowing it happened and if you check out the Podesta emails you will know why they did it beyond me just telling you.

    Again, it has nothing to do with Fox, MSNBC, CNN or others. It's Wikileaks where you will find what you so blindly have overlooked. They conspired and GOT CAUGHT! It's in the emails. Go look without the dedication you carry as a badge of honor to the democratic side of things. And please don't pretend not to know what the Clinton campaign and DNC did to deliberately sabotage the campaign of one of their own so they could propel her to the top. I'm not doing your homework for you.
     
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    This is such tripe. Trump must badmouth the media because they are the ones that expose his stupidity ignorance, treachery and greed. His tactics are self-serving and for self-preservation of an illusion and only his sycophant supporters refuse to acknowledge this con game.
    That is what he is hiding...among other things of course. He is not capable of honest debate or answering question in a cohesive truthful manner. Only a fool does not see thru this charade. He is also following a playbook that does not belong in the Oval Office of The United States of America..
    No surprises there...Trump and his fans hate democracy. And btw...the free press is the only business protected by The Constitution...and with good ****ing reason!
     
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    Trump tweeted this just today. It's almost like the president of the united states is talking directly to you, peppermint. LOL :D Time to get with reality and stop listening to the liberal media who control you.

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
    17h17 hours ago
    I use Social Media not because I like to, but because it is the only way to fight a VERY dishonest and unfair “press,” now often referred to as Fake News Media. Phony and non-existent “sources” are being used more often than ever. Many stories & reports a pure fiction!
     
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    Again, you are unable to deal with the issues I presented. Instead, you decided to be a comedian.

    Of course, this comes as no shock. You never deal with the issues. You always deal with me, personally.

    Do you realize how silly you look?
     
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    When the shoe fits you, even if it's funny.... you get to wear it.
    I may be the comedian, but the joke is on you.
    Silly would be trying to converse logically with a rubber-room mind. Waste of time.
     
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    You are dead wrong. Want proof. He is the least popular President in modern American history. His popularity abroad is even worse.

    Trump and many of his key policies are broadly unpopular around the globe, and ratings for the U.S. have declined steeply in many nations. According to a new Pew Research Center survey spanning 37 nations, a median of just 22% has confidence in Trump to do the right thing when it comes to international affairs. This stands in contrast to the final years of Barack Obama’s presidency, when a median of 64% expressed confidence in Trump’s predecessor to direct America’s role in the world.

    The sharp decline in how much global publics trust the U.S. president on the world stage is especially pronounced among some of America’s closest allies in Europe and Asia, as well as neighboring Mexico and Canada. Across the 37 nations polled, Trump gets higher marks than Obama in only two countries: Russia and Israel.
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26...lics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/

    The world doesn't need some bully with a chip on his shoulder like some tin-plated Latin American dictator. The great leaders of the world were intelligent, patient, understanding of others, listened to others, diplomatic, with a take charge attitude when needed.

    The last thing the world needs is an idiot like this.

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

    Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!

    4:48 PM - Nov 11, 2017

    Or this:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump


    This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

    Trump is incompetent, paranoid, and suffers from schizophrenia. The FBI is investigating him, members of his family, and his close associates. He has one major legislative accomplishment in eleven months and it may hurt his party come November.

    And you say he is a winner!:roflol:

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    Still another vague characterization. Tell me how the FBI is tainted and why Mueller doesn't have clean hands. Be specific ... for once.

    So, Trump won't hold any press conferences because he is punishing reporters. He is also punishing Americans who would love to see him answer certain questions. You are certain he is not afraid to answer questions. You prefer a President who closes himself off from the public. Interesting.

    You are dead wrong! Americans are bent out of shape because he refuses to answer questions, holds new conferences in noisy environments, and breaks them off like a petulant child when someone asks a question he doesn't like. You don't think that pisses off Americans? That partially explains why he is the least popular President in modern American history.

    I was referring to the networks' coverage of his rallies and his statements. Are you making this up as you go along?

    In other words, you can't support your statement concerning a conspiracy between the media and the DNC. You want me to do the research for you. Cute.

    That is on par with the other statements in your post.
     
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    You're joking. Your source for the veracity of the media is Trump??? He lies like a rug. He's even proud of it. He calls it "truthful hyperbole." Jeez!

    Wow! You really are hooked? Your child-like, blind loyalty to Trump is something to behold. Don't you have a mind of your own? Man, you are gullible.
     
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    Did you say this in all seriousness? You don't think he is hiding from reporters because he, members of his family, and some of his closest associates are being investigated for obstruction of justice and collaboration with a hostile foreign power. In your mind (mind?) this has has nothing to do with avoiding reporters. :roflol:

    I see, so Trump, the President of the United States, in your mind (mind?) is "in the background." :roflol:Man, you are a barrel of laughs.

    Here is a shocker for you. The media loves his tweets. They are fodder for every news day. I ought to know. I use the media and his child-like tweets every news day.

    A word of advice. Quit advertising your total ignorance for all the world to see. I am embarrassed for you.
     
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    I have been all along but you refuse to acknowledge.
    Source: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/12/fbi-agents-trump-mueller-texts-294156

    Here's another beauty right from one of your favorite news sites (CNN) ADMITTING Trump is right about the FBI and it's corrupt status: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/opini...arnished-reputation-callan-opinion/index.html

    I never said I was certain he's not afraid, but I have nothing to suggest he is other than your assumptions. I try not to assume.

    Sure, it pisses off my addition to your statement above. I don't care about any president's press conferences unless there is a catastrophe, major military movement, or other crisis-type things we need direct knowledge of. So far, I'm good.

    I haven't said anything that wasn't true. You, however, have made assumptions about how others feel, how they should feel, and even how Trump feels. THAT is making it up as you go. Check the mirror before making statements like that.

    Yep. It's common knowledge to anyone not blinded by party mantra. I told you where the info is. Cute how you chose not to care. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since you've posted nothing of substance so far other than your concurrence that you witnessed the very point of my posts, which was the MSM gifting Trump airtime in a plot to make him the republican candidate in the general. It worked, but they forgot their candidate sucked.
     
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    That is false. You finally got around to it with this post and it is exactly what I expected. Yours and Trump's reasoning regarding the FBI's bias is a joke.

    First, the Politico report involving Peter Strzok and his girl friend. The anti-Trump messages are from 2015 to 2016. Several months before Mueller was appointed. Mueller was appointed in May 2017. When Mueller found out about the messages, he removed Strzok from the investigation. That was five months ago. Strzok's girlfriend had already been dismissed. Why in the world is that an issue today?

    The CNN report only goes to show how balanced CNN is. It presented a Trump view. Mostly the article is comprised of vague generalizations and a longing for the good old days of Hoover. It mentions the Clinton fiasco. Trump keeps forgetting that Comey handed him the election when Comey re-opened the investigation eleven days before Election Day. As for Comey's July statement, Lynch is more responsible for the confusion than Comey. Lynch was Comey's boss.

    Then the CNN story goes into the Strzok scenario, a mediocre case of bias at best, a joke at worst.

    The Baker case is weak to non-existent in terms of bias. Still another joke is the case against McCabe. He is biased because his wife ran for office as a Democrat in 2015 and lost? That is ludicrous. What did McCabe do at the FBI that showed bias? Nothing.

    The issues are contrived, and you know it.

    Okay, so you prefer a President who hides from the public and only shows himself during disasters. You don't think a President should answer questions concerning his administration. I already knew that. The vast majority of Americans differ from you. You are a true member of Trump's base. Only a Trumpian would think like that.

    The fact that Trump hides from the public eye is one of many reasons why he is the least popular President in his first year in modern American history.

    So, you may think the way you do, but you are in a tiny minority and you are dead wrong in your thinking. Your kind of thinking is the reason Trump will be a one-term President ... if that.

    Yeah, finally.
     
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    So you didn't bother to go look for collusion and decided the FBI and Mueller were the crux of my argument. That was just another point inside the huge one you've even failed to acknowledge actually happened. It's convenient, but transparent.

    I guess since I voted for him you could call me part of his base. No apologies there. I'd do it all over again if he ran against that awful excuse for a candidate who challenged him, got more help from the press than any candidate in history, and still couldn't win. He isn't hiding. He gives addresses often and he gives answers through his press secretary, who does a great job entertaining me while she makes a mockery of the joke of a press who attend. I'm sure you hate her too since she's the visual enemy between the press you coddle and the man you detest. And posts like yours will assure a second term because there are literally millions of people spouting their daily racist, misogynist, nationalist, white supremacy garbage and expecting that to somehow lure voters to your side. It just won't happen. Telling someone they're dispicable on a constant basis....supports the other side!! Only your team can't understand the psychology of it and will continue to lose. It's almost like tricking a young child, only in this case the child tricks himself.
     
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    That's exactly right, Trump is working quietly in the background as those who oppose him chase their tails following some of his most trivial tweets and the fake news. Wait until you see what's coming next, perhaps within the next month or so. You will know when hammer comes down on a particularly evil kind criminal that prey on our most vulnerable. Some of the very people you look up to and cherish may be going down.

    --pete--
     
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    Americans have a lot of questions for Trump regarding his foolhardy tweets about Iran. The people who would ask those questions are reporters. They won't get the chance.

    "Iran is failing at every level despite the terrible deal made with them by the Obama Administration," Trump wrote. "The great Iranian people have been repressed for many years. They are hungry for food & for freedom. Along with human rights, the wealth of Iran is being looted. TIME FOR CHANGE!"

    When is this idiot going to learn to stay out of foreign affairs? He knows nothing about foreign policy. It is an intelligence issue with him. Broadcasting to the world that the President of the United States is siding with the Iranian protesters doesn't help the protesters one damn bit. Tweets like these severely damage the efforts of the protesters because the Iranian government can say with some validity that the protesters are willing provocateurs of the Great Satan.

    Trump doesn't have the brains to realize that. He is thinking only of himself. His tweets on Iran are meant for domestic consumption and designed to increase his popularity at home, a lost cause.

    When are people like Mattis, Tillerson, McConnell, and Ryan going to realize how much damage Trump is doing to our country? Republicans have been in control of Congress and the Oval Office for nearly a year. They have one major accomplishment -- tax reform -- and that may turn around and bit them in the ass. Trump as the leader of the party is a joke ... literally. Trump's base was responsible for Moore, and Moore was responsible for the loss of a Senate seat in the deepest of red states.

    All that should tell Republican leaders something. So far, that is not happening.

    In all their blind, mindless loyalty to Trump, his supporters agree with Trump. He shouldn't have to answer questions Americans might have regarding his tweets about Iran, according to them. Or, anything else, for that matter.

    You know, I just can't understand that. It is like Trump has somehow sucked all the will out of these people. They no longer have minds of their own. All they have is the Trump dogma and the belief in a secret Presidency.
     
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    Now I know you're joking. When overwhelmed by reality, Trumpians are forced to resort to humor.

    Admitting their severe error in judgment will never happen.
     
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    Your first para makes no sense. I didn't bother looking for collusion??? I did tear your two articles apart. What are you talking about?

    He is hiding. You can't see it? Sure he is on the major networks every day, noisy news conferences with reporters, golfing, his mindless tweets, golfing, whenever he is signing something, golfing, etc., etc. He is a master communicator who knows the value of meaningless rhetoric.

    His contact with the public is always on his terms. He is making a statement, signing an EO, meeting with a diplomat, inviting Congressional guests to the White House, every bit of it on his terms.

    He may or may not have a question period for reporters. There is a reason why his news conferences are irritating. He wants to cut them short, and he does. At his news conferences on the White House lawn (how dumb is that), if a reporter asks a question he doesn't like, he doesn't answer it. Often he walks away after an unwelcome question.

    If you can't see that, you are just a mindless Trump robot, willing to accept anything he does. You like a secret Presidency and feel the public has no right to ask the President questions. You have forgotten the Presidency belongs to the American people, not Donald J. Trump.

    Sanders? I don't dislike her. I have no feelings for her. She doesn't know much.

    Huh? Who did I say was despicable? I don't use the term. Are you now putting words in my mouth?
     
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    We've been discussing collusion and I told you more than once to check Podesta's emails. You conveniently left that out and portrayed it as if I only pointed to the tainted FBI folks.

    Again, after the collusion of the media with the DNC, why would he not have it on his terms? They colluded to screw him and he knows it. Anything less than on his terms would be reckless after what they've done.

    And? That's the jab in the eye he gets to keep offering. Perfectly acceptable after their unethical and despicable behavior. I would spend 4 years cutting them not one inch of slack.

    So you're just numb to anything the MSM did wrong and believe it's all his fault. They must love you over at MSNBC. You just keep going round and round, refusing to accept that it's fact that the media colluded with the DNC to screw Trump and got caught. Until you do, you'll always feel how you feel. It's blind love, apparently, but it lets you keep marching with your army of left wing hatists (yes I made that word up).
     
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    Trump prefers social media because the communication is one-sided. While continuing the ruse that he is a transparent President, he never has to answer to the White House press corps.

    Put a different way, Trump is hiding from Americans and refuses to answer their questions.

    On the other hand, his base favors the idea of the secret Presidency because they know he is extremely vulnerable.
     

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