A Preventative School Shooting Solution...Arm The Staff

Something I wrote back in 2012 right after the Sandy Hook school shooting...

 

Silly. The only solution is to send the DNC money...

and they call other people deplorable.

(I support your ideas, by the way, Mr or Ms Liver...it is absurd to establish the TSA, replete with 60 to 70 thousand federal employees, in order to harden the friendly skies against terrorist attacks, but accept no other solutions BUT gun bans after maniacs shoot up our children at what should be the safest place in America.)

 

Crossfire, I love it. Have you spoken with Wayne LaPierre?

 

What if the staff does not want to use, or are not good at using, firearms. It takes training and the correct mentality to stop and active shooter. Florida is full of armed people who have the legal right to stop violent crime. It is very rarely done. Just having a gun does not mean you will intervene in a crime, or will be effective in doing so particularly with lots of people between you and the shooter. Someone with a handgun, which is what they would be armed with, would be outclassed by someone with a AR-15 and have to get pretty close to shoot him.

I doubt many teachers could or would do that.

 

What is Crossfire?

A game?

 

I see. so, prohibit all from voluntarily participating in a Teacher-Staff Carry Program because some might not be interested?

why don't you gun grabbers just ****ing admit that the only...and I mean ONLY solution you'll accept is across-the-board gun bans and ripping the 2nd Amendment from the Bill of Rights?

 

I think you should read my posts on gun controls. And try addressing them rather than just screaming.. They had armed people already. Why do you believe the ones that volunteered would matter. Particularly since they would have faced a rifle with a hand gun, and had to avoid hitting all the people running around.

I don't think gun control will be tried in Florida so I consider discussion of it purely theoretical, essentially meaningless. If they want to try arming teachers on a voluntary basis that is fine with me. I doubt it will matter. Do you know of any cases in Florida, where much of the public is already armed and has the right to use deadly force, in which mass shootings have been stopped by private individuals. Florida has already put your theory of deterrence into effect and it has made little difference.

 

It's impossible to plan for everything a would-be school shooter has planned. such assailants have unlimited time to develop their subterfuge. no matter how well the good guys prepare, the bad guys will always have the element of surprise on their side. Teachers-staff can either be armed with effective means to address and combat the threat as it unfolds...perhaps take a few casualties in the process, but ultimately successfully disable the shooter.... or they can cower with their charges in abject terror as the shooter blows them away unchallenged.

Gun bans aren't going to stop criminals and crazies from getting their hands on them. the only sane solution is to harden our schools against these types of attacks, and that MUST include armed good guys.

 

Sure....give teachers.....one of the most underpaid, underappreciated, most frustrating jobs in the world, access to firearms in the schools, except most of them are untrained and know nothing about security or even using a gun. An untrained person is as much help in an active shooter situation as a box of rocks.

This whole "good guy with a gun" BS getting old.

It would much more effective to give more funding to law enforcement so they can form a permenent school security division and have armed officers at the school ready to respond. Many private schools have armed security on the grounds, and this would be no different.

 

An Utterly LUDICROUS Idea.

Just like Archie in the '70s Sitcom:

His solution to Hijackings was to "Arm all the Passengers".

Your Epic FAIL of an "Idea" was a Punchline in a 70's Sitcom.

Better luck next time.

 

Leave it to a lib/prog to equate what I wrote to arming all the occupants (ie. the kids).

What a moronic assessment you ignorantly made!

 

Too, there is an INCREDIBLE level of arrogance in play when politicians, school boards, employers, and various assorted pajama boys and girls tell law abiding adults that they're 'not allowed' the tools required to properly defend themselves (or their students) against an armed maniac loose on the commons. We elect representatives, not kings. NO ONE has the right to COMMAND another person to cower, helplessly unarmed, and 'hope for the best'.

 

You seem to like to talk about Florida so help explain this fact,

"What studies have consistently shown, since Florida introduced concealed carry in 1988, is only 0.02% of all concealed carry permit holders have gone on to commit a gun-related crime. After passing their concealed carry law, Florida’s homicide rate fell from 36% above the national average to 4% below."
https://bearingarms.com/david-l/2017/05/27/concealed-carry-violent-crime-common-sense/

or this fact,
"The recent report from ABC News that in Florida, where there are more concealed weapons permits than anywhere else in the country, violent crime has dropped to the lowest point in history, delighted Sean Caranna, executive director of Florida Carry, Inc. “We’re happy to have facts and statistics put into these debates, because every time they do, we win,” he said.

Firearm-related violent crimes in Florida have dropped by one-third in just four years, 2007 to 2011, while concealed carry permits jumped by 90 percent in that period. Further, violent crime of any kind dropped almost as much, 26 percent."
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...concealed-carry-permits-up-violent-crime-down

or this factual tidbit,
"Florida firearm violence hits record low; concealed gun permits up"
"In the so-called Gunshine State, home to the most gun permits in the country, firearm violence has fallen to the lowest point on record."

http://archive.naplesnews.com/news/...d-gun-permits-up-ep-385309911-342291771.html/

 

To those who are against training and arming those teachers who are capable, think FEDERAL AIR MARSHALS.

Are they on your plane? How many? Are they on every flight? What do they look like? Are they men or women? Young or old?

Is there a common link considering none of you can answer ANY of the above questions?

Has there been a marked decrease in incidents involving aircraft since they have been trained and possibly aboard the planes you and your children are while flying to see granny in some other state?

Use your head people the answer is right in front of you.

I know, I work with some of them.

 

Which is why when you arm willing staff, you include proper training.

When we arm Cops, we properly train them.

 

Democrats were angry that we wanted Air Marshals too.

 

Yeah, I think we could sell that!

 

Maybe we could have a jobs program connected to all this, we could have an armed marshall following every citizen.

 

I came to the conclusion it is not the killers they hate, they simply hate guns.

 

That sounds like a Democrats solution to my eyes.

 

Democrats don't fly. They have Birkenstock's, bicycles, and electric vehicles.

 

That won't work.

1) A firearm adequately secured is also a firearm that cannot be quickly accessed and used in an emergency.
2) It takes more training and regular practice by a person wielding a firearm to effectively defend a large group of civilians in an active shooter situation than any member of a school staff would ever be able to undergo. Its rare for professional law enforcement officers to attain that level of skill.
3) An active shooter always has surprise and initiative on their side.

 

OKay ... LMAO

 

Arming the teachers and admin staff is better than nothing.

But most people cringe at a bunch of academics trying to shoot a gun straight around their kids. This is a valid "liberal" (far left) criticism.

Getting professional armed security is the BEST solution to gun crime in schools. Of course, tuition and/or taxes will need to go up to pay for this solution.

 

Partly but they are really about the dislike for personal freedom. It's the word control they are really all about. Whether it's guns, the amount of money, or how happy you really are. Always look for the words "control" and "regulations" in their banter. We can talk about their love of "free ****" in another post.