A question about the upcoming election for Trump haters

No idea how the Indian's vote - and they don't make up much of the population.

Regardless - Blue shows up - Blue wins IMO - and that does not make me happy -in case you were wondering. Red has lost its way - and the demographic time bomb is ticking - the platform has good things but too many bad things that turn off younger (and now not so young) voters. In the mean time - the Republican Old guard continues to die off.

The Republican Party of Goldwater would clean up - The Republican Party of today allows far to much of its policy to be dictated by the religious right.

 

Do you think the two seats in Cali that the GOP flipped are an indicator that Democrats may be misjudging the electorate again?

 

Dream on. At any rate, as with the last election, many "blue" will not show up.

 

It's definitely not my dream - but it is reality. The Republican platform does not appeal to the younger demographic - for reasons that are not some big secret.

The party leadership is well aware of this problem - hence the efforts to suppress the vote.

Folks did not show up in the last election for reasons that do not exist in this election.

 

Who knows what happened in California - not aware of the issues in those regions.

Dems misjudging ? The Dems have done everything possible to shoot themselves in the foot.

Biden uniting Blacks and Latino's is a big problem for Red.

 

Because with the Left's lunatic anti-business, anti-capitalism, anti-patriotism ideas, arranging for illegals to vote is the only way that they can get and retain any sort of power at all, including political offices.

 

One of those Cali seats had not been flipped in 28 years. I have been feeling a bit insecure about the election but I think the tidal wave is moving, it just is invisible till it surfaces. Democrats have chosen to double down on policies that were what gave us Trump in the first place.

 

What were those reasons?

 

This is true but the demographic time bomb is no joke.

Consider this - Last election was handed to the Dems on a Silver platter. Red was in disarray - look who won the primaries .. do you think if there would have been a strong Red contender that Trump would have won ? It was a field of mediocre .

The anti establishment movement was strong on both sides of the fence. Trump capitalized on this - casting himself as AE - the man may have flaws - but he is gifted in other areas - understanding the mob is one of them.

The voter in general was in a foul mood. On the Blue side you had a strong AE movement under Bernie. Hillary was a horrible candidate - arrogant condescending demeanor - nails on the chalkboard personality - no plan - nothing to vote for - just "Bad Trump .. Bad Trump" like a parrot on a broken record. So bad many Dem women do not like her.

Hillary completely alienated Bernie AE crowd - while they did not run out and join Red - many sat on the couch - in an election with the lowest turnout in 20 years.

YET - she still got more of the popular vote. Ding Ding Ding ... bells when off in high places within the Red Elite - don't kid yourself.

4 more years have passed - tick tick tick - 4 more years of young voters entering - and old voters exiting.

This time Hillary isn't running - Joe may be senile but he is way more likable - and he has Blacks and Latino's united under him - and they are motivated. Get the voters off the couch and Joe wins.

What the corona wild card will do I don't know (other than kill off a bunch more Red voters) - gotta think the younger ones had their perspective changed with respect to the importance of Health Care ... and Trumps platform on this has been ??? - .. yeah .. I don't know either .. non existent.

My business will suffer with a Biden win - but reality is - what it is.

The game is not over - and the Dems just can't stop sodomizing themselves - its painful to watch. Doing nothing would be far better .. in fact .. all the Dems had to do was just sit back and try to be somewhat normal - trot out a few Blue good platform ideas - the election would be in the bag.

Believe it or not - the other thing that really sucks about Blue is their Environmental Policy - something in my area of interest and expertise
Without getting into a dialogue - Pipelines and domestic energy production are good for the environment .. way better than buying from "Nigeria" .. or anywhere by Tanker - and that is a demonstrable fact.

 

All this from a member of a party that has chosen Joe Biden? Trump got the nomination because everyone else was business as usual and the public is fed up with that monkey business. The man is doing a great job and he's looking for ways out of this economic mess we are in. He is the only politician not telling us to stay under house arrest and do what we are ordered to do by our wise leadership. Who benefits if we do that? Why the wise leadership.

 

Who is the member of the party that has chosen Joe Biden you are referring to ?

Then you go on about the the "great Job" that Trump is doing. True or not - this is unrelated to my comments.

 

And that's a reason to vote for him???? You think voters would prefer a president who will probably be completely non-functional by the time he's inaugurated, JUST BECAUSE HE SEEMS LIKE A NICE GUY? I surely hope you are wrong.

The "hot spots" for corona are large coastal cities. Those are notorious for being liberal/Democrat. I would think more liberal voters are being "killed off."

 

I didn't say it was a good reason to vote for him - but - the fact of the matter is that likability comes into play when assessing who people will vote for. Hillary was very unlikable - and this hurt her - Voter turnout was a 20 year low - and the Bernie supporters certainly did not like her - especially after the dirty deeds her and the DNC pulled.

If the Blue shows up - Blue wins.

 

I am taking bets on which old fart croakes first during campaign season.

 

So you'd go along with throwing out the California electoral votes?
You can't be anti voter fraud and believe that the vote in California doesn't have non citizens voting.

 

Just an honest observation my friend.

 

You keep telling me how this election is in the bag for dems, just like the last one, and I'm just telling you that actual political conditions have not changed. On his worst day Trump is a better option than Biden.

I think he won the same way Trump did, got the most Electoral votes. Watch close and Trump will show you how to do it again in November.

 

I never once stated that Trump was not the better option - and I personally favor a Red win - if for nothing else my own personal business interests - and for the sake of the Environment - as Red policy is much better for the Environment - even though they don't have much of a policy (which is irritating) - and most (not all) don't seem to realize it.

What I want - has exactly ZERO to do with who is going to win the Election - same with who is the better option in my mind.

What I want - is for parts the Red Platform that are alienating so many voters - to change and for Red to start respecting the principles of Republicanism - which would diffuse the demographic time bomb.

You can go on about Trump being the better option all you like - but those in demographic time bomb land don't share your opinion.

If Blue Shows up - Blue wins - that is my prediction - "Because Political Conditions have not Changed" - Red is still Trumpeting vile - anti republican policy that turns people off.

 

No, I do not believe in election fraud for any reason. It will be a close election if we can get that vaccine out by the fall.

 

That brings us to an interesting problem. Blue trumpets anti American policies so if they have the popular vote that says a lot about where this country stands as opposed to our historical place in the world. If that is true then America as we knew it is finished and Communism and Socialism have already won. My thoughts are that a big turnout favors Red.

Speaking of red and blue, how did the color shift come about? Red was Communism and Blue was America for as long as I can remember and I can remember way way back.

What are a couple of he GOP policies that you think alienate voters?

 

If everyone collecting unemployment will get off their duff and vote.....I think Democrats will lose anyway.

 

Wierd fetishes and sexual allegations aside, would I be enthused to vote if my only choice is an old guy, exhibiting signs of dementia, who has never accomplished anything of note in Congress, who apologizes to left wing extremists for every principled position he has ever taken to which they object, and who is most likely indebted to foreign nations for favors? Can he stand up to powerful foreign leaders like Putin and Jinping? So would leftists cheat to win if winning is losing? I would hope not. I can't believe that Democrats have finagled themselves into this position. Bloomberg would have been ten times better. It's mind boggling to me.

 

Get your head out of the label - Communism - does not exist in US politics.
Red is just as Communist as Blue - the only difference between red and blue is how that wealth the Gov't steals get redistributed.

Some on the Red side have brains - and realize that Healthcare is a losing issue. Not because it is a Blue issue - not because Universal Healthcare is "Communist" (this is a ridiculous claim - just absurd and if you think the majority of voters agree with you - I beg to differ - and the ones that would agree to such a claim are "insert word indicating lack of ability to think" )

But - because we spent 3.5 Trillion on healthcare in 2017 - for a product that costs roughly half in every other civilizations .. and Fiscal conservatives such as myself - and these guys - are not happy about this. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-for-universal-healthcare/

Abortion is a "Losing Issue" - one that has nothing to do with Communism
Gay Marriage is a losing issue - one that has nothing to do with Communism
Environment shouldn't be a losing issue - bit it is - one that has nothing to do with Communism.

The religious right has ruined the party - and this is unfortunate.

 

Abortion is a settled issue unless and until the SCOTUS weighs in and that is unlikely.

Healthcare is right where Obama (Blue) left it. It is so completely entangled that it would be like cutting the Gordian knot to untangle it. We will eventually go to single payer and some price controls.

Gay marriage is here but I'm just fine with those who don't endorse it. Abortion is much the same. It was established based on a lie but by now it is established law. It will stay with us in one form or another. Nobody wants the SCOTUS to make a further ruling on it so we'll continue to fight State by State which is probably where it should be handled anyway.

Funny how your major complaints are so closely aligned with Blue, maybe you're pro 2nd though?

Communism is alive and well right here in the land of the free. Like they say, the greatest trick of the devil is convincing people he doesn't exist.

 

How can you vote without an address? Which polling place would you go to?