A Question For Democrats and Independents

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Would you vote for Chaney in 2024?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you vote for Liz Chaney in 2024 if she ran as a Democrat?
     
  2. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Well-Known Member

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    No.

    I'd probably vote for her over Biden if she was running as a Republican.

    I would rather Mayor Pete be the democratic nominee though.
     
  3. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    I’d vote for her in the democrat primaries if I could do she could be their nominee.
     
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    I would not vote for her as a Democrat, but I might if she were the Rupublican Nominee.
     
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    Nope...but then again I've never voted for a Dem so there's that. I don't see Cheney joining Dem party anyway.
     
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    no, she is a republican, why would a dem vote for her

    Trumplicans won't vote for her as they are not republicans either

    real republicans can no longer win unless they get the Orange Stain on their nose
     
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    She's not going to run as a Democrat. No matter how low she has sunk, she hasn't sunk that low. I'd say that if she runs she runs as an Independent in order to take votes away from Trump if he is the nominee. If for some reason it doesn't look like Trump will be running, she will probably run in the Republican primaries and be out in the first few rounds. But, to answer your question as I consider myself an Independent, there is no way I would vote for Cheney for any reason. While I respect her vote on impeachment and don't criticize her for that, she has literally gone way off the rails and doesn't care about anything else but getting Trump. She let herself be used by Democrats for their political advantage. It's not about principles as she claims, it is about a personal hatred of Trump.
     
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    I would vote for her over a hardcore progressive or a Trumper whether she was running as a Democrat or a Republican, but not over a moderate of either party.

    But there's really no reason to think she would ever become a Democrat. Lets keep in mind that she wasn't ousted because she wasn't conservative enough, she was ousted purely for going against Donald Trump.
     
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    if she was the democratic nominee (she will npt be) and if she is running against trump there would be no question.

    i'm kinda liming up with newsome ( aoc as vp would be a plus) . i like ms cheney, who has more principles, leadership and morals in her little fingernail than the republican leader, but
    american style "conservatism" is an ideological dead end.
     
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    No. She has character and courage, but she's wrong on almost all the issues.
     
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    If the options were her or Biden/Harris - yes, but not because I like her
     
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    Depending on who else was on the ticket, I'd vote for her. Party doesn't really matter. If it was her vs Trump or one of his clones? Hell yes I'd vote for her. And max out my donations. And phonebank for her.
     
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    Don't know, it would depend on what her platform is. What do you think Presidental Elections are? Voting for Class president in your high school or prom Queen?
     
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    you do realize, the OP is attempting to label Liz Cheney as a Democrat, right?
     
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    I cannot answer yes, or no, just maybe.

    It's all going to come down to what the circumstances are when the election comes around.

    BUT, if Trump were unable to run, because let's say for example, he's gets indicted, then the GOP field is wide open to be re-defined to become civil again.
     
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    She would never run "as a Democrat", she'd vote for tRaitor tRump first.

    And, in the first place, the Democrats wouldn't have her.
     
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    Neocons like Cheney aren't Real Republicans either. They are just big spenders that thing the lions share of spending should be military and aren't happy if Americans aren't bombing some one.
     
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    A hard no. She is not a Democrat. She will pursue policies that are a total anathma to what Democrats believe, and the justices she would appoint would be duplicates of Donald Trumps. Can you imagine what she would do to climate change legislation, and health care reform? Integrity, courage, tenacity and a modicum of intelligence are wonderful in a President, but if they don't work towards worthy goals they can actually set this country backwards.

    I think we can find a Democrat with those same attributes, and not go back 40 years.
     
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    Hell no.
    While she is to be admired for sticking to the truth, she still voted with trump 93% of the time. Too much damage to non white males.

    A true independent does NOT care what party one belongs to. It's about the character of the person.

    If most are like me, we detest both parties and try not to vote for either.
     
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    On a year by year basis, trump is the biggest spender. LOL. I guess trump is the biggest neocon of all.
     
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    then she should love Trump, he raised the debt more than any President did in one term in the history of this country
     
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    As did every president before him since WWII.
     
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    LOL. If the results of the poll indicate anything, its that D's want R's to vote Cheney so she can lose.

    As usual, the virtue signalling is fakery.
     
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    Liz Chaney's platform has always been clear. She is a Neo-con. Maybe it's time for you to end your love affair with Chaney and see her as she was before the January 6 riot. About the only thing Trump and Chaney disagreed on was war. Chaney was and still is a war monger.

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...jan-6-awakening-does-not-absolve-her-n1298097

    How Liz Cheney helped create her own downfall

    Cheney was an enthusiastic participant in the radical political style that helped bring about Trumpism.
     
  25. Alwayssa

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    Because I said, "I Don't know" is always considered a love affair? Good god almighty.

    Maybe it's time to put your hatred aside and act practically for once in your life. Or is Trump infallible in your mind here?

    As for Cheney, she followed Trump 90% of the time and pretty much the GOP platforms during her time in Congress. And now, a Trump loyalist is taking her place in a very, very red state because she acted on her conscience. I will give her credit on that, which is far more than what her opponent has as a "groupie." ,
     
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