A Question For Democrats and Independents

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by flyboy56, Aug 17, 2022.

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Would you vote for Chaney in 2024?

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  2. No

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Who is Chaney?
     
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  2. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just trying to keep you from making a mistake if Cheney does run for president. I don't like Cheney because she is a war monger like her daddy Dick who got us into Iraq based on lies. And for you to say you would consider her after seeing what her platform is completely ignores her actions when it came to voting. We've all been taught correctly that actions speak louder than words. And a platform is just words. The reason Trump fired John Bolton is because he was a war monger.
     
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    And we know how you opposed Operation Warp Speed and the spending tondight COVID. :roflol:
     
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    not sure your point, Trump raised the debt almost 8 trillions dollars, the stimulus checks sent out was a small part of that

    and as for warp speed, that was created after the vaccine entered trials.... they did not think Trump could handle it

    Biden got the Covid pill and a new vaccine approved without a "warp speed" team to help him get it done
     
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    And we know how you opposed Operation Warp Speed and the spending towards COVID. :roflol: Are do you prefer to go on record here saying you opposed it all?

    What Biden "got approved" was already underway.

    Biden did it all by his self how laughable. But then when you are desperate to find something ANYTHING to credit him all you have is laughable nonsense.
     
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    Correction: Cheney
     
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    Operation Warp Speed was pointless, the vaccine was already in trials by the time Trump created that, Trump only created it to try and steal credit for the vaccine

    Biden has approved a new covid vaccine and a covid pill, and did not need a "warp speed" to make it happen

    Pfizer started trials in April 2020, Trump talked about creating warp speed on April 29th 2020, after the Vaccine already created

    Phase I–II Trials were started in Germany on 23 April 2020, and in the U.S. on 4 May 2020

    Operation Warp Speed was active from May 15, 2020 – February 24, 2021

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer–BioNTech_COVID-19_vaccine

    almost like Trump created warp speed after he heard the vaccine entered trials to try and steal some credit

    and it's almost like Pfizer knew this would happen and choose not to let Trump steal credit

    "Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said he decided against taking funding from the US government's Operation Warp Speed for the development of the vaccine "because I wanted to liberate our scientists [from] any bureaucracy that comes with having to give reports and agree how we are going to spend the money in parallel or together, etc.""
     
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    One of the most conservative Republicans running as Dem.....? I don't see that, but she might run as independent.

    Would you vote for Harris is she ran as Republican?
     
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    Unlike Democrat's love affair with Cheney there is no love for Harris by the Republicans. Clearly your question was asked before giving it much thought.
     
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    Are you going on record here saying you opposed it all?

    And what about the extension on unemployment and COVID economic relief funds.................are you going on record here saying you opposed it all?
     
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    opposed what? Operation Warp Speed was pointless...... all it was a pre-order of vaccines... could have been done without a 'warp speed' under any other President
     
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    Are you going on record here saying you opposed it all?

    And what about the extension on unemployment and COVID economic relief funds.................are you going on record here saying you opposed it all?
     
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    how many times do I have to say it..... Operation Warp Speed was pointless!!!
    how many times do I have to say it..... Operation Warp Speed was pointless!!!
    how many times do I have to say it..... Operation Warp Speed was pointless!!!

    the vaccine was already in trials before Operation Warp Speed was a thing

    the Trump shutdown was also a failure, never should have happened
     
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    I don't think she would ever be able to run as a Democrat unless she completely changed her ideology. She could run as an independent. And she would have all my respect, but I would never vote for her.
     
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    Voting with Trump 94% of the time makes one a Neocon. Lmao. Having principals makes one a Neocon.

    Sure, I disagree with her on numerous issues, but I’d vote for her over Clinton, Biden and Trump, any day of the week.k
     
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    So I have you on record as opposing the government working with private industry to clear the way for the vaccines and ramp up the manufacturing and then getting them distributed. Thank you.

    Warp Speed was not just about developing the vaccine, the method was known it was just a matter of getting sample strains and matching the vaccine to it. Operation Warp Speed was announced the day before the first human trials began and it's purpose was to streamline the testing and approval and get it into production and then into the arms of the citizens. And it was a HUGE success your biased and baseless assertions notwithstanding.


    Operation Warp Speed: Accelerated COVID-19 Vaccine Development Status and Efforts to Address Manufacturing Challenges
    https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319

    The shutdowns were state shutdowns. Did you support the COVID spending when the states started to such down their economies yes or no?

    Did you support Biden's COVID spending and extensions to unemployment benefits and PPP?
     
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    so are you on record admiting the vaccine was already created and in trials before Operation Warp Speed was even a thing?

    Phase I–II Trials were started in Germany on 23 April 2020, and in the U.S. on 4 May 2020

    Operation Warp Speed was active from May 15, 2020 – February 24, 2021

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer–BioNTech_COVID-19_vaccine

    almost like Trump created warp speed after he heard the vaccine entered trials to try and steal credit

    the Trump shutdown and reopen guidelines have still not been met by the States, Trump never change the reopen guidelines, name one State the met Trump's reopen guidelines and when they met it
     
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