A question for Democrats/Liberals

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by BULGARICA, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. TOG 6

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    When it is, and you don't have it, you'll wish you did.
     
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    Weak, illogical conclusion. What percentage of conservatives would carry a gun where ever they go? Not many I'm willing to bet. There are other means of self defense and the fact that you have always resort to a gun as a solution is pure stupidity.
     
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    If said fool already have his gun pointing at you, do you think you can draw fast enough like Clint Eastwood and survive the shooting? Unless the fool is a gang banger, he is very least likely to shoot you.
     
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    Isn't that what the OP is doing? The entire purpose of his OP is to denigrate those that don't carry.
     
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    He's too afraid to leave the house without a gun....you can't expect him to be someone who would ever learn self-defense techniques :)
     
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    Shhhhh....stop being so logical
     
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    That you can propose a situation where a gun might not help you in no way diminishes the validity of what I said.
     
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    Yes, like using your brain, advanced planning, so on and so forth.
     
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    I am.
     
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    Fall.
     
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    I carry a knife in the club, a pepper spray, and I'm a yellow belt in Kyokushin Karate.
     
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    Ah, I can wear a jacket. 10mm then. 16+1 in the tube.

    Given that both represent a clear, present and immediate threat to my life, and I am unable to retreat, I draw my firearm, hold it at the ready, wait until the last possible moment for the person charging me with a knife to stop, after which I shoot to stop him.

    The dog, of course, doesn't know what gun is and the threat it represents and so I have no expectation that he will stop upon seeing it; however, as he is smaller, faster, target, I need to let him get closer to be sure I'll get hits.
     
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    Everybody forgets a strobe flashlight. That's a hell of a stopper, even for dogs. And their vision is obstructed, their night vision lost. Then the 10mm will rip.
     
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    I have a flashlight on my 45, but not the 10mm. No rail.
     
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    Get a Nitecore, JetBeam or something, hold in the other hand. Streamlights for pistols are pretty weak, 300 lumens or ish.
     
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    Mine is 800.
     
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    What's the LED? They updated them I guess. My old TLR was only 320.
     
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    Our murder rate, etc. is much lower than it was 30 years ago. In fact, for about the past 15 years we've been at fairly low levels (in comparison to the 1980s and 1990s) of violent crime. Common sense is act ually being used more often. There are more laws today/less restrictions that allow the legal concealed carrying of handguns around the country than there was 30 years ago.
    Below isn't quite 30 years, but shows the trend.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
     
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    Well, maybe you should, since you live such a dangerous life.
     
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    Must be a mall ninja.
     
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    And I can most of the time. I live in hurricane country. I could be in a situation with no modern communications/electricity/police presence in a matter of a week's time. When looters are going through a neighborhood (which I have heard in my own neighborhood in the aftermath of Hurricane Ivan), it is comforting to have a gun, and had they tried to break into my house, it would have been life saving. You may live in an area with benign weather with no chance of ever being out of communication with the police, etc., but I doubt it. There is no part of the country that doesn't have some kind of weather or other natural catastrophe on occasion.

    In the U.S., we have much less gun laws in most of the country than we had 25 years ago. We also have lower violent crime than we did 25 years ago. Is that a coincidence? Maybe, but regardless it shows that less gun laws does not increase crime.
     
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    There are not hundreds of billions of people in the world. The latest projection is that we have about 7.75 billion. Exaggerate much....... No wonder you are anti-gun. You don't live in a factual world.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=world population&cad=h
     
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    Of course a gun isn't always the solution. However, when it is, it's the best solution.
     
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    In the civilized world here, knives are not allowed in nightclubs. You're a yellow belt but your first suggestion is to use a gun because you are afraid of a guy wielding a knife? I think not.
     

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