A question for Democrats/Liberals

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by BULGARICA, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. BULGARICA

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    First thing that happened after Katrina was ... oops, right. Home robberies. Imagine you're still in your home, and a dindaki enters.

    There's one thing. I'm not going.

    I was.

    If you say the "White world" is England or Australia, I would have to strongly disagree.

    A few videos ... from the alleged "White world".











    If all that is "civilized" and "White world"...

    You are living in a virtual reality where you don't go out at all and your mum shops for you. At least we don't have that here in Southeastern Europe, thank god.

    You fight, you hurt yourself.

    If you had any idea about martial arts, you'd know how easy you break a wrist in a street fight, and how many things could go wrong. The attacker can pull a knife and quickly stab 3-4 times and ya done. The attacker's friends could join. I can pull a ton of videos where one single guy gets knocked. And if you get knocked, even if you're 1 on 1 against your adversary, your head will probably bang the asphalt, concrete, pavement.

    You just chose to be a vegetable.

    For the rest of your life. Just because you are "civilized" to allow your enemies to fight dirty, protect themselves at all times, and you choose to be the little bunny.

     
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    You just closed this thread with this point. 100% true. I've never personally used a fire extinguisher in my life. But I have 2 in my car, ALWAYS, and I have 2 in my home, ALWAYS. Why?

    WARNING. Very graphic. Someone's burned alive. Why he burned? Because from all the bystanders, only ONE had a fire extinguisher, and it was so old that it was not working at all. Maybe it became a lump of sand. And one of the MORONS poured some water, and then THREW the plastic water bottle INSIDE the fire.

    That's Russia, people. It's just Russia.



    We need guns, the same way we need fire extinguishers.

    This proved all points on this debate, again I say. People will die because nobody cares to be prepared. It's sad. Really sad. Maybe you personally won't be dying. But what if this happens?



    The exact moment where they shot the Police Officer in the head has been removed from all over YouTube, so, sorry! But you people, you are the true definition of the modern shooter. Shooting cameras, not guns. Letting people die, not save them. And you say you're great and very helpful and respectful. That's not respect. That is a coward behavior.

    And I wonder what would you do in this situation, like in the Charlie Hebdo attack, if you don't have a gun. Will you stop the gunmen with a cone of ice cream? Or you will hide behind the walls of your safe home. What a joke.

    And let me tell you that. If I had a AR carbine, living in Paris, instead of shooting with my camera, I would've sniped them from my balcony and let them bleed. A human being was gonna be still alive!

    Cowardice is cruelty.
     
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    I hope you realize you're talking to yourself.
     
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    Just as there is no relevance to be had in the statement of how "hundreds of millions" of individuals have not needed to utilize firearms for their own defense.
     
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    I am talking to smart people; moroffs don't read.
     
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    The hundreds of millions of people politely disagree with you ;)
     
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    Please, you're talking to yourself. The rest of us have moved on. We're at peace with the world.
     
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    The ones living in the united states who actually have the freedom necessary to make such an informed decision on their own, of their own free will? Or the ones who live in foreign nations who had the choice made for them by their governments, and had no say in the matter either one way or the other?
     
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    The world, however, is not at peace with you as an apparent citizen of the united states.
     
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    o_O Why is that?
     
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    I don't give a rats a$$ about foreign nations. But again, we were talking about those who've never needed a gun their entire lives. So whether it was by choice or not to not have a gun doesn't matter. Again because we're talking about those who've lived their entire lives not needing a gun.
     
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    Assuming the forum does not have limitations on the number of words that can be contained within a single post, those the explanation would be presented to would not have the attention span necessary to read the myriad of reasons for why foreign nations and parties hate the united states and the people who live within the nation.

    Even if they did have the attention and focus necessary to read the explanation, they would not care to consider anything that violates their preconceived notions of how the world works, as it would require them to consider the possibility that they are wrong in their established positions.
     
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    The ones who actually have the freedom necessary to make such an informed decision on their own, of their own free will? Or the ones who had the choice made for them by their governments, and had no say in the matter either one way or the other?
     
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    Is this groundhog day? Or memory issues on your part? Asked and answered.
     
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    Its amazing any of us survive without constantly being armed. Personally I bring a spear gun into the shower....be prepared.
     
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    In other words, you can't answer why.
     
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    So glad my dad taught me to not be afraid of my own shadow by not being so paranoid as to keep his guns at the ready in our home. He kept them locked up in a safe in our basement. He, as I do, had guns for target shooting purposes. He was never so worried about any type of home invasion. Do home invasions occur? Sure thing. But so few and far between that no one should be paranoid about it. Just my opinion.
     
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    Except for the simple fact that the question was indeed not answered. The only thing answered on the part of yourself was that firearms ownership not being a choice by the people did not matter, and made no difference over whether or not they actually had need of a firearm at the time of not actually having a firearm.

    If the choice was made for them, and they could not legally own a firearm at the time of actually needing a firearm, then those accounts are worthless and mean nothing, unless they are being used to demonstrate just what legal firearms ownership is so important.
     
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    You're not getting it (surprise, surprise)....the premise is about people who have lived their lives without needing a gun. Doesn't matter if the choice was made for those people. They didn't need a gun regardless of whose decision it was. But again, I was talking about the US. I realize you need to move the goalposts and bring up other countries. As I said before....I don't give a rats a$$ about other countries. Try to focus, k?
     
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    According to the united states department of justice, there is an estimated three million seven hundred thousand home invasions committed each year.

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

    That amounts to approximately one home invasion being committed every nine seconds in the united states.
     
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    If these individuals made the decision of their own free will to not own a firearm, it is one thing. If the choice was made for them and they had no say in the matter, it is another thing. Having to make do without the proper tools to perform a specific task does not mean the tools were not needed.

    That matter aside, someone not needing a firearm to defend themselves as of yet, does not mean such will remain a static constant through life. They cannot say with any degree of certainty that the results of yesterday will be the same results tomorrow.
     
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    Someone is home in 1 out of every 3 such home invasions..
     
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    3.7M out of about 126M households. I like my odds. Especially since only 1M of the 3.7M home invasions someone was actually home. Of those 1M only 266K experienced some form of violent victimization. Yup...I really like my odds. Thanks!
     
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    Right, except I've always referred to people who have lived their entire lives without needing a gun. Lived, as in past tense.
     
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    does it account for those homes that were 'invaded' multiple times... location, location, location o_O
     

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