A question for left wing college professors pushing socialism

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    That's when you whip out a piece of paper and write up some Candy Crowley Award for Discriminatory Judging award (crayon is preferable here). Hand it to the professor with a lot of fanfare before your rebuttal, and then continue on as if nothing was ever said.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If socialism is an inevitable failure, why did the US feel a need to embargo Cuba or actively try to drive Venezuela into bankruptcy by blocking foreign loans and engage in other programs to undermine and de-legitimize its government?
     
  3. Belch

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    Okay, you obviously have no clue about the millions of people that have died under communist regimes. You know nothing about Pol Pot in Cambodia, Stalin, Mao Zedong, nothing nothing nothing.

    My only advice is to do a bit of research, because we aren't here to educate you on common knowledge. That's something you are expected to bring to the table before hitting that "post reply" button.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of those are Cuba or Venezuela though so any more straw men you want to bring to the table? How about the crusades? How about the genocide of the Native Americans? How about all those who have died in the perpetual wars for Big Oil.....oh wait, Venezuela has oil....the plot thickens
     
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    You asked "if socialism is an inevitable failure", and now I'm being asked about the genocide of Indians, while being castigated for straw men? LOL
     
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    This is why "progressives" are regressive. Communism has an abysmal failure since its introduction. Tens of millions of more people have died brutally from Marx's Communist Manifesto than Hitler's Mein Kampf
     
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  7. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just try to prove they are false.
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Why do you keep referring to yourself as 'logical' with posts like this? Everyone knows that if the premises are unsound, there will be no possible logical conclusion derived therefrom
     
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  9. Lucifer

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    Something tells me you would have a hard time even finding the Registrar's Office.
     
  10. Lucifer

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    Huh?

    Who would be sharing with the poor people? Certainly NOT the Castros, or the government. Not certain you know what you are talking about here.
     
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    Castro took from the rich and gave to the poor. He gave the rich an ultimatum to leave with the clothes on their backs. This probably
    took place before your time.
     
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    Your post is both inaccurate and misleading--more akin to propaganda than fact. Socialism or "Democratic Socialism" as practiced in Sweden, Denmark, England, France, Germany, and several other advanced nations, doesn't attempt or strive, or claim to "make everyone equal." That's NOT the goal. Democratic Socialism encourages both capitalistic business ownership and entrepreneurship. There are billionaires in England, France, Germany, Sweden, etc., just as there are in the U.S. The big difference between Democratic Socialism and U.S. Capitalism is that under Capitalism the wealthy control it all, with little or no thought toward the welfare of the middle class or poor. Democratic Socialism protects the financially less fortunate by providing basic services to all citizens, such as individual and family health care. Democratic Socialism is Capitalism with a heart. It is much superior to the selfish, self-serving Capitalism of the U.S.
     
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    Marx was right about many things, but wrong on this. Socialism is NOT the road to Communism. In fact, they have little in common with each other.
     
  14. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because unlike wishy washy libs I am coldly logical. Things are either right or wrong in my book. I seldom change position on how I "feel" on any given day.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well gee--------------------maybe a towering genius like your self could show me the way.
     
  16. ChrisL

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    But you have to RELY on an honest government. Capitalism works because if you don't make your customers happy, then you don't do a very good business. It does not have to rely on government. Capitalism is "self correcting."

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    Agreed. Where do I sign up to release myself from these programs?
     
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    ???? Wow, you don't even have a clue as to what socialism even is.
     
  21. VietVet

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    I do not have to prove a ridiculous claim is false.
    You opened this thread on a false talking point with zero experience.
     
  22. Lucifer

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    :roflol:
    Who the hell sold you that story?

    He didn't give anything to the poor.

    There's a Cuban joke that goes like this...

    There's only 3 things wrong with the Revolution; breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
     
  23. ibobbrob

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    Who the hell told me that story? Cuban nationals who were thrown out of Cuba with a suitcase (no cash or things of value in suitcase).
    Of course there is an old joke in Cuba, since the poor couldn't manage their new found land and moolah, and the nation became a nation of poor.
    Read a history book.
     
  24. Lucifer

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    Here's some news for you...



    I AM CUBAN!

    Your contention that Castro gave the poor money is FALSE. The Castros are dictators who only call themselves President. What kept Cuba afloat for many years was the influx of Soviet money, and after Perestroika, Castro had to fend for himself.
     
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    Yes please!

    I would give it up in a heartbeat, but like true socialist policy, they won't let us. "Its for your benefit, so we refuse to let you opt out" which should translate to "we need your contribution to pay for people who can't afford out and it gives us power and control "
     

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