A question for the pro abortion people

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by logical1, May 18, 2019.

  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    I believe late-term abortions are rare with about 1.3% of abortions taking place after the 21st week of pregnancy, and less than 1% occuring after 24 weeks.
    So, of those 1.3%, how many are where either the fetus isn’t healthy or there is no risk to the mom? Are there any such cases? I actually don’t know, which is why I’m asking. I agree late term abortions where both fetus and mother are perfectly healthy should be restricted.
     
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    If those stats are accurate then it actually sounds like good news to me
     
  3. Daniel Light

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    That seems to be the case from all the stats I've seen.

    I see some real freaky stuff from some conservatives on these boards - they seem to think that women are running around getting tons of late term abortions from every source under the stars. Truth is, late term abortions are vary rare and are only performed at hospitals under the supervision of doctors for medical reasons - unless we are talking about some unlicensed back ally dude - and then they are already breaking existing laws.
     
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    No, one is either Pro-Choice( believes women have the same rights as anyone else to their own bodies) or Anti-Choice ( those who don't believe women have a right to their own bodies)
     
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    LOL!

    Ya, brainwashing entities that want to force women to give birth.

    How about how righty politicians continually try to reduce funding to entities that aid CHILDREN, BORN CHILDREN, like Welfare ,SNAP, WIC, they even oppose healthy school lunches for poor kids...
     
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  6. Sirius Black

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    Here are some things that pro life people could do to further their cause:
    Use whatever means DNA etc to find the father and make him financially accountable to the best of his ability for the child.
    Provide the parent(s) with pre-natal education
    Provide free or low cost prenatal health care to poor mothers
    Provide free or low cost healthcare help to poor children until their 18th birthday
    Provide the child with proper nutrition if the parents are too poor to do so themselves
    Provide free adoption assistance to any mother that does not want or can not afford the child
    Make it easy for anyone to get birth control materials
    Come up with a common sense program to end or at least reduce the death of children in our schools

    If these options were provided I would have no problem supporting doing away with abortion except in the case of rape, incest, or danger to the life of the mother.
     
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    I see this silly claim by Anti-Choicers all the time and when I ask WHO said it, WHERE it was said THEY NEVER ANSWER.


    NO one has said a human fetus isn't human and YOU can NOT prove anyone did.

    IF anyone would say that they would be wrong and certainly NOT a representative of Pro-Choice.




    Gee yet another error....PP does not sell body parts....and as usual, you have no proof they do.


    There is no baby in abortion but a human fetus is human, it can't be anything else...
     
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    Unfortunately "Pro-Life" actually means Pro-Birth" so they do not care what happens after that, besides you are talking like a Dem so....go away.
     
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    Strawman. Nobody says a fetus is not a human. And, planned parenthood doesn’t harvest body parts and sell them.

    Why do you intentionally make **** up in every thread you create?
     
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    It isn’t subsidized.
     
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    Why do you feel making shut up is a valid argument?
     
  12. Starjet

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    First, no one is pro-abortion, any more than anyone is pro-heart bypass, or pro-hysterectomy, or pro-Craniectomy, or pro-vasectomy. What we are is pro-life, the ones actually born. Which means, as independent adult humans, we have the right to decide what to do with our lives, including reproducing or not. We are conceptual beings, not God's cattle.

    Furthermore, in reference to its supposed humanity and rights--a corpse is a deceased human being, its rights ended when death arrived; which means when brain activity stops. A fetus is an unborn human being, its rights don't start until birth arrives; which means the umbilical cord is cut, and its existence is physically independent of the mother.

    It's not hard to understand if you reject mysticism and embrace reason.
     
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    Just how is one born dead? Doesn't "being born" mean being physiologically independent of the mother's physiology?. That's biology. That's science. And it's irrefutable. My question is why do mystics have so much problem with biological science? Why do they believe delusions have moral authority over reality? Because they don't believe in life; they believe in death, the afterlife.
     
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    They don’t! But then again you believe right wing propaganda. That has been debunked over and over .
     
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    To them life begins at conception and ends at birth
     
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    Morally, realistically, scientifically, objectively, selling aborted or deceased--and in some cases, living--body parts is beneficial to the well being of the living.
     
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    Oh, that's spot on. The fetus in the womb has rights, but the living woman is treated like a breeding cow. Now, I submit, that is a horribly rotten evil premise to hold.
     
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    When humans reject reason and embrace faith, force is not far behind, as Alamaba (with regards to abortion), and recently, Poland (with regards to rainbows and the Mother Mary), have aptly demonstrated. Anti-abortion laws are as stupid, and therefore immoral, as laws that demand the death penalty for suicide. Guess, stupid is as stupid does.
     
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    I was only telling pro lifers what it would take for me to agree with them. Certainly calling me a baby killer hasn't worked, but perhaps they don't want me to agree with them. Perhaps they would rather rant. I also thought that if they were really serious about the issue they would be willing to take positive steps to reduce or eliminate abortions. I think we learned with alcohol that simply prohibiting it doesn't end the problem.
     
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    You are over thinking which instantly places you at disadvantage when dealing with the Pro-Birth crowd.

    Here is your tutorial to what they are thinking:

    Baby Good, me save baby.
    Lady Bad, me don't care about lady.
    Baby live in ladies tummy so lady is baby.
    Me save baby by making lady do what I say.
    Baby Good...me save baby...lady not good.
     
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    Using verifiable data, can any “pro-lifer” tell us how many late term abortions involve situations where both the fetus and mother are perfectly healthy and not at risk?
     
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    Anybody notice that the person that starts these threads makes 1-2 posts, is shown to be completely wrong, and is not heard from again. All the time.
     
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    Yup. It's a pattern.
     
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    They'll give you one story about "the doctor in prison ..." and claim that it proves that it happens, "all the time ...".
     
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    How about you quit making crap up.
     

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