A question to all Australians . . .

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you doing to stop the atrocity of FGM?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    4 views and not a response among them - it isn't looking good.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    I think that this is more prevalent than the general population is aware of.
    But if I said anything about this I would immediately be called a racist/islamophobic
    whatever by the loonie left.....
    I tried to expose female genital mutilation a year or so ago, but all I got was criticism, suggesting that boys are circumcised under jewish tradition, so why not girls...the usual crap I get...
    I dont think too many politicians in Australia have the guts to tackle it, and from my
    observations, MSM wont touch it, and the various womens movements do nothing...
    I thought female politicians would at least run with it...but nothing....
    "More than 200,000 women in Australia are estimated to have experienced FGM or be at high risk, but training and awareness surrounding the issue is not currently included in Australian medical curricula.

    The only way medical professionals can gain FGM-specific skills in Australia is if they seek out extra-curricular training."
    That may help the medical experts, but doesnt stop the practice...
    Just the usual band aid treatment..typical for Australia....
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03...lation-survivor-helping-close-the-gap/9508622
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's sickening - there's no other word for it, sickening!
     
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    It is one of those inconvienient truths.

    The politically correct find it a greater crime to offend a religion than to have a women barbarically mutilated, mostly against their will.

    If we ignore it, it can’t be true.

    One case is too many!
     
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    FGM is illegal in Australia as is taking someone to another country for FGM.

    We have had lots about it in the past and it has been fairly openly discussed.

    What more should we do please?
     
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    I am supporting any policy that actually punishes and prevents any and all actions against the health and wellbeing of men, women and children governments and UN conventions bring forward. What about you???
     
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    He lives in the UK, where its probably just as bad...probably asleep atm...
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    I find it interesting that I mention a number of 200,000 in a previous post, and no-one is even interested in disputing that figure....suggests that no-one really gives a stuff...
     
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    Cannot disagree with that. BUT I ask, do you think there is more that can be done in Australia??? I know that seems conflictive but it is just pushing to help discussion along.

    We only hear about few cases due to the fact that most of the cases are from Islamic beliefs. So often people who point these things out are often labelled racist and bigots because… somebody want to put one over somebody else??? Or maybe somebody wants to pretend they are something they are not??? I don’t know.

    But Australia has decent standards when it comes to these types of topics. Women are (supposed to be) highly respected part of society and humanity. Not particularly bigoted against Islam but Australian’s standards in many ways are not conformist to those types of religious ideals. I know you can agree with that.
     
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    That is fine, this is not just an Australian problem.
    Seriously, as you can see, most find it too difficult to discuss, the only dispute is the number would be higher, I suggest. This is generally a religious Ideal. I think Slippery answers this point precisely above.
     
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    It shouldnt be any country's problem, and although its illegal in Australia, it is performed behind closed
    doors. It is part of a culture which has been permitted into Australia.
    Why are these immigrants permitted to enter Australia, if it is known that FGM is part of their culture, and FGM will occur. As per normal, our naive Government welcomes them with open arms...
    And then we enact laws to make it illegal, even though everyone knows it will be performed in secret upon little children before they even start school...therefore they forget all about it, and accept the consequences
    as part of their normal life....
    As usual, we know all about it, but dont do enough to stamp it out...but we do have to be politically correct about everything, and multiculturalism is so wonderful in this country.....
     
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    I know where you’re coming from. Forgetting the asylum seekers, we assume that people come to Australia to embrace and live under Australia's standards. BUT unfortunately for Australia, this is an embedded belief which we have to accept is practiced in other nations both legally and with their belief it is best.

    Australia has some rather barbaric practices as well we turn a blind eye to as well. Generally speaking, coming of age rituals are just as barbaric yet are acceptable to most. The question becomes just how much do you tolerate???

    All you can do, is demand that you live in your nation you respect the very standards within that nation. By changing the minds of those who dwell in your nation, you may change the minds of those who do not. We run down a very slippery slope when we choose to segregate based on a stereotype and belief that makes our stereotype above another.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: Er, we're discussing FGM here??
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As barbaric as taking a blunted razor blade to a child's genitals and cutting parts off? Can you give me a comparator please?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I won't be holding my breath for a reply to that, billy.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Mate, the replies if any will be an avalanche of pillorying from the loony left....
    Or maybe its all too hard...maybe there wont be any...just like my other thread....silence is deafening...
    ...no-one cares.....apostacy and fgm...two shining lights of islam.....pft...
     
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    Australia's indigenous male ritual... If you don't know, at 12 male children would have the tip of their penis cut off with a sharpened rock in ritual tribal act.
     
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    Why??? do you think you have a monopoly???
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What kind of ludicrous answer is that; and it isn't even coherent. But we all know what they say about 'The internet attracts . . . etc'
     
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    Circumcision is practised in traditional communities as part of the rite of passage from boyhood to manhood. There's a lot more to it than the cutting but it does happen.
     
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    Well, Im glad I was "circed'.... I certainly wouldnt want that ugly looking thing hanging off me..imagine the health issues....yuk...
    I think we are missing the point arent we....FGM is performed as a controlling factor over women...The practice is rooted in gender inequality, attempts to control women's sexuality, and ideas about purity, modesty and beauty. Religious convictions of the practitioners also play an important role in the continuation of the practice. FGM is considered obligatory in the Shafi'i version of Sunni islam.
     
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    Me? I'm doing nothing, because its illegal here.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it's too much trouble to fire off a protest email to your political representative about it then? Right gotcha - indifference like that will ensure the obscenity continues and increases.
     
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    It may be illegal in many places, but that doesnt stop the scum from doing it now does it and no-one says boo...not even the female politicians.....too hard...
     
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