A question to and about the evangelical rights support of trump

Yes, Christians remain Christians because they are afraid of the unknown (the "after-life").

 

Trump or a pantsuited Satan....that was the choice....Christians chose the former - it was more a condemnation of the pantsuited one than it was a love for the orange-faced one.

 

Their "god" (that they look to for guidance) approves of rape, yes, rape, so of course they can't be considered ethical people, one can argue: http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

 

Selective application of one's religious dogma. How uncommon.

 

Trump is far MORE ethical than the Biblical heroes, of course. The Biblical heroes were so unethical that those savages actually approved of owning other people as personal property, and of even said you should get away scot-free if you BEAT THEM TO DEATH as long as the death dragged out past a day or two! I'm not making this up. Except for the president of CNN, Trump would NOT approve of doing that to anybody! So if Trump is more ethical than the Bible is, it's obviously high-time to dump the Bible.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/slavery/

 

I only have a few moments but this video may assist you in understanding why we support President Trump.......
(on top of our finding Hillary really really scary)!


But to give you some simple theology on this.....
My wife has been getting prophetic messages from
Messiah Yeshua - Jesus since before I met her in person.....
She was even told that I would be her husband......
She is the one who really introduced me to the Christian
prophetic movement... I knew almost nothing about it until the year 2000
when I met her online.

But basically....... fear of Hillary gets us motivated......
so when a rather famous Prophet or two or three are raised up
with a message that sounds credible to us..... There are verses in Isaiah 45
that become very relevant........

Basically a political leader can be led by the right hand by G-d without even
knowing G-d........

Isa 45:1

¶
Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

....
Isa 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

King David committed adultery and killed Bathsheba's husband while in a backslidden state... but the anointing of G-d was on his life until his death.......

Cephas / Peter cut the ear off a guy who was attempting to arrest Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus......

The Apostle Paul murdered Messianic Jews... and even compelled them to blaspheme...... before his conversion........

we Christians are looking for repentance.... .a change in life.... in our leadership.......... and somebody having the potential of saving us from Hillary made them interesting to us......... but when a gifted sincere man like Mark Taylor came forward........ we really took notice of his message.

 

Interesting perspective. So, fear of hillary overcame moral and ethical concerns about trump.

To one without religious faith, I am gobsmacked by the self righteous contortions required to support a lying, sexual assaulter and crook as their leader. Who that ignoring a sinners sins is perfectly acceptable if ignored for self righteous reasons.

But I suppose everything and anything can be rationalized in Christ. All religions appear to function in exactly the same manner. Gee what a coincidence.

 

You REALLY THINK people rank politics above religion???
LOL!!!!!!!!

 

Oh good grief. "Proof" from 2000-year-old writings about ancient myths written by ancient, superstitious humans. This is one thing that is wrong with the world.

 

Moral and ethical Christians oppose Trump and Clinton.

 

The DP stopped representing working americans, the common man, and it really took off when clinton was president. Those that were paying attention to their party, like I was, was forced out of the DP because of the changes that began within that party. They stopped looking and for and representing the working american. They joined, thanks to clinton, the GOP in regards to hollowing out jobs, that Perot told us would happen, in order to allow the elites to max out their profits using slave labor, in mexico and then china. The democrats helped pass these GOP neoliberal policies. That is a fact and history

The democrats even stopped helping poor people when clinton signed welfare reform, which was too drastic of a change, although a reform was needed. The benefits were cut back from people who needed them. Going after fraud should have been the reform, not reducing benefits which were barely sufficient even back then. The dems have done nothing for they no longer represent anyone but the upper middle class and upper class, the big banks, MNCs and the elites that own them. Who in return finance the campaigns, of both parties. Obama raised more from the elites than the GOP presidential candidate did when he ran. And what he delivered to these elites, even with trump rejecting the TPP, is being paid to him each time he gives a speech. Just one speech puts obama in the top 1 percent.

 

You mean the GOP does not represesnt working americans and the common person, One Mind.

 

But.... when faced with either Trump being President......
or Clinton being President.... the choice seemed clear to me!

 

Ok.......... another way to look at this is that IF.... the world is
really looking at the possibility of a seventy to ninety percent depopulation of the earth over the next century or so........
which person as President of the USA would be most likely to at least
TRY.... to set in motion a series of events that would prevent many of those deaths?

Elitist Hillary who is right in there with people who believe a 90 percent depopulation of the ignorant masses
is necessary?

Or President Trump who is supporting people who are PRO-LIFE.....
in many ways right across the board.... .not merely against late term abortions?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-70-90-percent-depopulation-of-world.502496/
Are we facing 70 - 90 percent depopulation of world?

for the record....
I am trying my best to convince people that even some of the worst
most dangerous possibilities being faced by anybody at this time......
can perhaps be averted:


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...illion-dollar-problem.525406/#post-1068713597

 

Yes, that is why I voted for McMullin, the Christian.

 

Good choice......
I did research him some ...... and I have extremely high expectations for the State of Utah......
they are in a position to alter how the world views what America must accomplish now.......
and over the next two or three centuries.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...utah-state-dollar-save-the-usa-dollar.349935/

Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?

 

This is an excellent explanation for the problems in the USA Democratic Party ... I totally agree with you!

Getting closer to the Greens is one way that the Democrats could recapture something resembling
a philosophical foundation........... but a massive shift in how the party functions at the top level would have
to happen first.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/should-bernie-sanders-run-with-jill-stein.461453/
Should Bernie Sanders run with Jill Stein?

 

Ever hear the phrase, the lesser of two evils? I think for quite a lot of those you classify as the evangelical right that their choice and support boils down to abortion, throw in gay marriage, probably other what they consider biblical sins. It came down to a choice in November of 2016 between a person who they considered the devils right hand woman, Hillary Clinton and a very flawed, but not the devils right hand woman, man. It also came down to what a lot of the evangelical right considers their vote against the political party ought to destroy their religion and faith.

Trump is no avenging angel. But he doesn't support abortion which most evangelicals consider murder of the unborn. Trump isn't out to destroy their religion either and doesn't push an immoral life style, in their eyes, of gay rights. It's not hard to understand their support of Trump considering the alternatives they have. Look at it this way, they would rather have a person living under their roof that robs convenience stores than have a serial murderer living under their roof.

So their choice and support of the less immoral over the most immoral will continue. Most evangelicals would never support someone who pushes abortion and gays down their throats even if it means supporting someone whom they view a little less evil than any alternative the Democrats had to offer. One should recognize this fact, each individual and or group has issues that are important to them and they differ greatly. While most Democrats can't understand this, they should. The Democratic Party has in their eyes become Satan's helper in trying to destroy them, their religion and their way of life.

It's all quite simple.

 

Well, according to the data, the majority of Catholics voted for Hillary, and she supports abortion, a major no-no in the Catholic Church.

Bottom line, faith is a fickle thing. Really lame to keep trying this appeal to emotion meme about evangelicals.

 

It's not difficult to see the similarities in the evangelicals and the NRA. They both cost you money. Neither one gives you a tangible product for your money. Both rely on fear.

 

Oh come on! Listen, I see Hillary as a status-quo, pro-establishment part of the reason the U.S. is a mess and is heading the wrong way, but a 90% depopulation???????????? That is so crazy that it takes a raving conspiracy lunatic to invent such garbage. So where did you get the idea? What is your source? Tell me and I'll show you a raving conspiracy lunatic.

 

I take certain types of research into parapsychology seriously.......
some of it has extremely scary implications but..... I am hopeful that the really
negative events happened in another time line....... which we can learn from... .and avoid in this time line???

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

Making the collective decisions that are needed to be made to avoid that disaster.....
requires that we take the threats seriously... and not just laugh at them.

 

Yeahright. There's your lunatic. And no mention of Hillary or "90%".

You're endangering your sanity by listening to crackpots.

 

And I cannot see the party changing. They have become addicted to the special interests teats who finance their elections. Sanders raised enough money to run on by small donors, people like me who believed in his message, since it reminded me of the DP I once was a member of until the 90s.

I have hope that the millennials will mature and create a grassroots which will bring change to the DP and move it back to an opposition party again, by representing the Common Man as we used to call them. For to change the top, must begin at the bottom. It has always been like that when people want representation in DC by people who are supposed to be bound to do that. IMO, the indentity politics exercised by the democrats have fractured working people into groups, when their main interests, economic interests, should be what brings them together, hispanics, blacks, whites. Whites voted for trump! Because the DP would not represent their economic interests nor would the establishment GOP. Trump did not run as your typical republican. That is why he won. Yet the hillary democrats refuse to admit it. For various reasons, IMO. None of them good reasons.

 

I am not surprised that a question on the nature of evangelical faith as a political force, would be viewed as an appeal to emotion.

whataboutery abounds.