A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But Is Not True

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    What part were they incorrect about?
     
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    The Ukrainian prosecutors said in May that they had no problems with Biden's pay "a company can pay their directors whatever they want" and offered to give the US the pay records presumably so they could check on Biden's tax returns for fraud and evasion. Either the US didn't follow up or he, unlike Manafort, paid his taxes. That was your best shot to get Jr. Your next best shot would be to prove that he lobbied for Ukraine without registering as a foreign lobbyist, strike 2 against Manafort, but it appears he was not paid to lobby so that's a tough one for you. Most importantly though those are potential crimes that should be investigated by the US DOJ not a foreign government that doesn't have a dog in that race.
    This whole affair just highlights Trump's ignorance and his fans willingness to ignore it.
     
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    8 mentions of Biden, a promise, anything concerning
     
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    How do you know the DOJ hasn’t followed up? That’s the point they have and are. It took years to prosecute manafort. This information is brand new
     
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    No he did not in this latest itteration of his "career" with the prosecutor office. In 2001 he said he was forced to you retire after "refusing" to take on the case of corruption against the oligarch and perpetual presidential candidate. On March 29, 2016 he was forced to resign by a vote of Parlament

    https://www.google.com/search?q=sho...j1j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    See a RFE article about "Why was Ukraine's top Prosecutor fired?"

    https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

    You see Smokin Shokin is and has been the "prosecutor" who does not prosecute oligarchs.
     
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    Like I said, he resigned. Largely due to pressure because Biden was witholding a billion in aid....and as your google link, which takes me to his wiki page, he was investigating Biden's son's company. Which, now that the case was reopened, and the Ukraine AG shared intel with our DOJ in regards to potential tax fraud here, involving Hunter, could very well highlights Joe's intent. Joe's intent would be difficult to prove, it simply however appears quite bad.
     
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    So are you saying this is false.

    Ukraine’s prosecutor general said in an interview that he had no evidence of wrongdoing by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden or his son, despite a swirl of allegations by President Donald Trump’s lawyer.

    “Whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great,” Trump told Zelensky after mentioning Biden several times. The Justice Department said Wednesday that Barr was unaware of Trump’s request at the time and that he did not have any contact with Ukrainian officials about the president’s request for an investigation into Biden.
     
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    So do you have an example of my free press investigating and reporting on the issue? Im pretty sure you will learn more in the next month then you have learned since lil slimey biden got his millions . Wonder why the press treats dems so much different then repubs?
     
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    I guess they dont have proof , biden had the prosecutor fired.
     
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    Don't forget he had all the notes and documents destroyed as well. Smfh.
     
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    Fake news does not care about facts.
     
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    Not at all...I don't think Joe broke any Ukrainian laws.
     
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    You are spot on. The lawlessness of the Leftists coupled with their conjured up attacks on their opponents tells us how incredibly untrustworthy we should all be. But, they have the entire MSM, education system, and Social Media companies pushing their propaganda and agenda. We have a sect of Americans that will mindlessly repeat their talking points. Stalin called these people, "useless idiots".
     
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    Where you at Lefties? Why don't you want to know the answers to these questions? Transparency right?
     
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    Changing the topic.? Just showing lefty hypocrisy.
     
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    Is that the same thing as a Shill Puppet?
     
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    Thank you for admitting the accusation exists. No one running for president should get a pass for charges of corruption. All we need now is an investigation per PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REQUEST to Ukraine's president. Then we can let the chips fall.

    You don't mind, do you?

    BTW: On Hannity tonight, John Solomon is suppose to reveal documents showing Hunter Biden's legal team knew the Ukrainians were investigating corruption at Burisma Oil and they were going to interview Hunter..

    That was just before dad closed the show.
     
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    What a ****ing joke that the moderators moved this! How is this not a current event!!?
     
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    OMG. Do you really believe that if every single transcript where the U.S. President was talking to another leader was publicly available one of the other Party wouldn't find something wrong or illegal to complain about.

    If I were a U.S. Security advisor for Trump I would put all phone call/transcripts under the highest level of security because of the 100s of leaks.

    If there were too officials in the White House of upper echelon employees heading the Intelligence Agencies that have the Whistle blower information. They should be identified and fired and possibly prosecuted because THEY, not the President have put the Country in danger.
     

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