A Sign of Things To Come: Horses Starving in Colorado

Discussion in 'Animal Welfare' started by Blackrook, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Why?

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    If corn were not being diverted into gasohol (which motorists loathe) , the price of corn would not be so astronomical, and corn could supplement hay as horse feed.
     
  3. Serfin' USA

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    Ethanol production does have an effect on corn prices, but then again, so do agricultural subsidies. We literally pay agricorporations to limit crop yields, which artificially raises prices as well.

    If we ended farm subsidies, then prices for corn would normalize outside of the effects of ethanol production.

    Even if ethanol production rose as a result, then it would eventually reach an equilibrium without government intervention.
     
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    Obama, nor any other politician, should be used as an excuse for animal neglect/abuse.

    I raise dogs, have 2 parrots, 6 rescue cats and a big ole mutt I found on the road that had been hit by a car. I spend over $300 a month on animal food.

    Times have been tough for me, too, but my animals have not and will not pay the price for that.

    THREAD FAIL!!!!
     
  5. stekim

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    Mostly because people have the capacity to feed themselves. How many people starve to death in America every year? I'm guessing very, very few. Statistically, I bet it's essentially zero. Between food stamps, food pantires, churches, charities and shelters, etc. people tend not to starve. Captive horses cannot feed themselves. They are helpless. So if I had money to feed one versus the other the horse wins. If that makes me a bad person I'm cool with it.
     
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    Fair enough, but depending on their age, children aren't that much more self-sufficient than horses in captivity. We can hold adults responsible for their own actions, but young children are essentially at the mercy of those around them.
     
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    The solution is obvious, isn't it?


    Before the horses get any thinner, eat them...
     
  8. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I suppose.
     
  9. stekim

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    Agreed. Same with the very old or mentally unstable. No argument here.
     
  10. Blackrook

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    It doesn't make sense.

    Mayor Bloomberg said Hurricane Sandy was caused by global warming, and endorsed Obama because of it.

    So if Obama can stop hurricanes, he can certainly stop droughts.

    Why are liberals be inconsistent here?
     
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    Eat them too. Everybody wins.
     
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    It doesn't make sense.

    Mayor Bloomberg said Hurricane Sandy was caused by global warming, and endorsed Obama because of it.

    So if Obama can stop hurricanes, he can certainly stop droughts.

    Why are liberals be inconsistent here?
     
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    You mean it's not your god guy that causes them any more?
     
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    Why does his invisible sky person hate horses?
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only the economic climate, and America voted for decline so they will get what they voted for...
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it is true that the horses did not vote for Obama (except in Chicago and Philadelphia, of course)
     
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    Slaughter the horses and eat them. That way neither the horses or poor people will starve.
     
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    Horses raised in the USA are pumped full of medications, grooming products that are labeled do not use on animals for human consumption!
     
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    I'm wondering whether they passed a law against shooting your own horse, because there has to be some logical reason people are just letting them starve.
     
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    To address all the asinine answers defending obmama!
    He is responsible for GAS Prices which in turn drives up the cost of everything.
    Diesel which is a By Product of GAS has risen substantially and is what most tractors run on.


    1st Our economy is the #1 problem with horses that are starving.

    2nd there are many people who want horses but do not want to buy hay, farrier, vaccinations, vet care but by all means lets BREED them and have a baby! These people never should have had horses to begin with!

    3rd back yard breeders are becoming a thing of the past selling their 200.00 horses to the above people most of these horses are not conformationally correct and other things are wrong with them usually and it is sad because it is not their fault these horses typically ended up at the slaughter houses.

    4th bringing back horses slaughter well it is not illegal in this country so why is it not being done? Hmmmm heres why there is NO MONEY in it there is only money in it if it is being purchased by other countries for human consumption and to the tune of millions of dollars and does not fix the horse population problem. CAnada has slaughter and there are many many cases of horse starvation and neglect up there.

    5th The horse community is willing to help those out that ask for it calling your local 4-H extension office and ask if they can get the word out that you cannot feed your horses is a start not LETTING THEM STARVE TIED IN A BARN OR IN A BACK PASTURE WITH NO GRASS!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Where has anyone (besides you) claimed that Obama can stop hurricanes?
     
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    Mayor Bloomberg endorsed Obama because he thinks Hurricane Sandy was caused by global warming, and Obama can single-handedly stop global warming.

    So yes, the President is responsible for the weather, ACCORDING TO YOUR SIDE!!!
     
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    Liberals really don't understand how the real world works. They live in their parasitic little union, entitlement, etc... bubbles.

    If you want to destroy the environment, charity, good will, increase crime, etc... just attack the economy and watch what happens.

    The poor horses are the result of a poor economy... and it's only going to get worse.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

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    There was a law against killing horses that was in place briefly, but I believe it was repealed.
     
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    The animal has to be in suffering. I'm not sure why the horses aren't just taken somewhere and set free. Its not like they didn't live for thousands of years without people.
     

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