A simple, common sense gun control plan

yeah lets harass people who aren't causing issues because you are mad you live in a fascist city. lets hassle those people rather than busting hard core violent criminals (who don't vote against liberals)

 

how do we know if he is prohibited or not?

BCs

 

According to the ATF, the starting salary of an ATF agent is just under thirty five thousand dollars.

https://www.atf.gov/careers/salary-benefits

For such a significant increase in staff size, the ATF would need to be allotted an additional one hundred and seventy for million, three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars annually, just to pay the salaries of all those new staff members. All of that just to try and locate private sales between private individuals, for the purpose of charging them for paperwork violations, rather than focusing on more serious crimes that are being committed with firearms by individuals that are known to be prohibited from firearms ownership.

 

we need less control freaks and statists who want to restrict our constitutional rights

 

Then let us discuss possible solutions, rather than ineffective proposals. Any prohibited individual who is found in possession of a firearm, regardless of circumstances, shall be immediately executed on the spot by law enforcement. No courts, no judges, no juries, no incarceration, just simple and immediate execution.

 

Plan defeated.

 

And he left out Section 5.

"If at any time the Democrats get a majority they can ban any class of firearms by making up a new scary sounding description (ie,"weapon of war") and use the registration system to collect them.

 

Do gun apologists not care about due process of law?

 

Why should we? Gun banners don't care about the Constitution.

 

One death of an innocent American, denied their right to defend themselves, is one too many.

 

1) background checks are already required by law
2)the so called gun show loop hole doesn't exist, background checks are required when purchasing from an FFL dealer.
3)any private citizen selling a firearm to another citizen is free to require the purchaser to have a background check run at any store that sells firearms, cost is usually $20.
4)a firearm registry is already in place, an FFL dealer is required to maintain sales records and forms for 20 years. A firearm can be tracked by the government to the dealer who can then determine who it was sold to.
5)titles are BS and you know it, should knives and axes have titles as well?
6) licensed gun dealers do an inventory every day, not once a year. They do this by counting the number if firearms after sales. For instance if my store has 600 firearms and I sold 25 I now have 575 firearms...inventory complete.
7) red tags are ignorant, everything you have suggested is already on the 4473, you might want to look one over, you're ignorance is showing.

 

Universal background checks and registration does not exist. The loopholes are so big you can drive a truck thru them....a truck full of guns

 

Considering some of the proposals by those who wish to see greater firearm-related restricted enacted into law, it is safe to conclude that they certainly do not care about due process of law. That is the only conclusion that can be made when discussion about prohibitions and confiscation of privately owned property after the fact arises.

Beyond such, those who choose to victimize others for their own benefit do not care about due process of law. Why should they be provided any greater consideration than they provided their victims?

 

name calling again? really?

 

There are no loopholes pertaining to the rules, regulations, and restrictions on firearms.

 

my city isn't Fascist.

we have massive freedom of religion, free press and freedom of association.

you apparently have no idea what Fascism means.

 

Facism? These guys are hilarious

 

The criminalization of self defense sounds like an appropriate definition of fascism.

 

self-defense has not been criminalized in NY

 

These are violations of the rules of the forum

 

Tell that to those who have suffered severe injury or death after having been denied their right of self-defense by the city that found them unworthy of exercising a constitutional right.

 

violence, even homicide is legal in NY if in self-defense.

happens more than you know.

i remember a guy on the subway bashed a man's head into the ground until he was dead, because he attacked his son.

no charges filed. self-defense.

 

I'm talking about those who were threatened, sought to acquire a defensive tool, and if they weren't denied outright they were still forced to wait while the city tried to decide if it would deign to allow them to have the means to defend themselves, and too many innocent people were maimed or killed during that wait.

 

Concealed carry permits are denied to anyone unless they can demonstrate a "good and compelling reason" to explain why they should be allowed to carry a firearm for their own defense. The legal acquisition of a firearm within a day of being subjected to threats of violence does not exist. The process of acquiring legal permission to even own a handgun is often more expensive than the handgun itself.

 

so the only way to defend yourself is with a gun?

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! oh Hollywood.