A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    who's to say it won't the next 500-5000 years it won't? Who's to say homosexuality isn't pleiotropy. Why hasn't sickle cell anemia eliminated itself? Why hasn't cancer why hasn't any genetic disorder eliminated itself?

    do you think being attracted to the people you are is equivalent to making a decision to tell the truth or not?
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might consider scrolling up at least through my posts before assuming something that's already been covered. In short, there is no gay or straight gene.

    Google "pseudologia fantastica". You might even see this picture as an example: [​IMG]
     
  3. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed for the most part, especially with helping those who seek it.

    The bottom line here is that, mentally ill or not, choice or not, we're talking about American citizens and those citizens have rights to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness". What they do not have a right to is other people's money or adversely affecting other people's right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Absolutly agree
     
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  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I'm not attracted to that and I'm not gay! Like love is a decision, I believe geing gay is a decision, a state of mind, Often brought about by experimentation, abuse, or peer pressure.
     
  6. Renee

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    Then I assume you can be attracted to men as well as women...after all it’s a choice.
     
  7. Renee

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    You are talking like an extremist as though there is nothing in between. You make assumptions like women just casually leave a marriage and go on to another daddy or a new man when in fact it is a very painful and long decision for women. Yes marriage means something to you about a man and woman join together where each as a contribution to that union
    Why is it not the same for two men or two women to join together and contribute to that union.
     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    Incorrect. We don't choose who we're attracted to, we can only choose whether or not to act on it.
     
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    It’s wonderful that the people who aren’t gay don’t experiment or are never abused and don’t give into peer pressure (sarcasm alert)
    You are not attracted to certain people but you can’t define who you are attracted to. The same way I am attracted to George Clooney is the same way some men are sexually attracted to George Clooney. I am very attracted to many women but that doesn’t mean I am sexually attracted to them .
    I remember working with my sex ed class where they were about 14 years old and I asked them what attracts them to a female because they were insisting that being gay is a choice. They would say things like big boobs and I would point out a photo of somebody who is extremely ugly with big boobs. We finally realized that it isn’t easy to define. I also remember being madly in love with this boy Larry when I was a teenager And my friend asked me what I saw in him because he wasn’t cute. I thought he was gorgeous
     
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    "I also remember being madly in love with this boy Larry when I was a teenager And my friend asked me what I saw in him because he wasn’t cute."

    "I thought he was gorgeous..."

    I know exactly what you mean.....
     
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    Two men or two women do not a family make.
     
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    As a man, I admit there are appearances I find in men that I find more appealing than others. Usually it is based on past experiences which does give way to prejudice. It is not always justified and is hard to figure out....but it never is in the realm of sex. That is reserved for the opposite sex.
    Your sarcasm alert makes perfect sense. Someone who is abused by the opposite sex may develope a hatred or repulsion for the opposite sex. My own daughter has told me that in high school it became "chic" for girls to openly kiss other girls because it is seen to be cool in the "what's happening now" Hollywood scene. Perhaps a young boy who is talked into a homosexual experience before he even understands his own feelings may succomb to feelings of guilt and unworthiness to ever experience a normal hetero-sexual relationship.
     
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    What....are you saying I AM attracted to Hillary??? That's a new one on me!!! LOL Actually we are in agreement.
     
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    Somehow I doubt that you are so dense as to not realize I was responding to Dixon. Why it didn't include the quote, I'm not sure.
     
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    It doesn't fit your definition of a family. Sadly for you, you do not get to make that definition. There are all kinds of family. Those of the blood, those of the heart, those who love each other as sibling, others as spouses. Same go for marriages. Legal marriages are not the same as religious marriages, and each religion, even denominations within a given religion, define marriage differently. Marriage has been defined in many ways throughout history. There have even been ghost marriages when a person has been married to someone deceased to continue the family line. There is no one true definition of marriage, as shown by history.
     
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    You seemed to have missed his point that the same sex family was dependent on the break up of a traditional family.
     
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    Unfortunately I did read it, and same sex marriages produce no children.

    Were you born dumb or did u stubdy
     
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    Remind me to tell my cousin and her partner and theirs twins that they are not a family. Why are they any less of a family then my husband and I are?
     
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    Marriage is of blood....family is of blood... the exception is a married couple adopts and that child becomes blood. It was that way from the beginning.
    " There is no one true definition of marriage, as shown by history." ////so you say.... and there is no right or wrong, no male or female, I get your drift.
     
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    Which one do they call Daddy?
     
  21. Renee

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    Neither...They are both mothers
     
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    Marriage is of blood, family is a blood except for the couple that adopted a child and then that child becomes blood. OK I agree with you. Two women marry so it is a marriage of blood and they adopt a child and. The child becomes blood
     
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    A child needs a Dad. It takes a Dad to make a child. That is the ideal. I jus think it is very important to encourage family as it was designed. Sex is not recreational, it is a moral undertaking that often produces a child. That is the change in education we need to make.
     
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    Of course we encourage an ideal family. Just because there is a mom and dad doesn’t guarantee anything. I would rather see a child grow up in a house with just one parent when there is an abusive dad.
    I am sorry that you do not see sex as recreational. If I saw it only as producing a child I would have a huge family that I couldn’t afford.
    Sex is fun...try it other than for procreation.
     
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    Well, since the topic is whether I agree with the other poster, I am uniquely qualified. No doubt, as full of yourself as you are, you've convinced yourself you are more qualified than I to know what is in my own mind.
     

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