A solution for the homosexual hating florists

Just sub contract the job to another florist. Take the $, give it to a homosexual loving florist that will contract to do the work. Same with cakes, photos or whatever. No need to accept work that violates your religion, get someone else to do the dirty work. And if not, then the world according to Obama may bankrupt you.

 

Or, we could just repeal all public accommodation laws.
Christians should not be able to refuse service to homosexuals if they cannot turn around and do the same thing.

 

The couple could have just gone to a different florist. If wouldn't have been any sweat off of their brows. I'm sure there are florists that specifically cater to same sex couples.

 

I believe all businesses should have the right to refuse service to anyone they choose.

 

That florists would in any way be considered a place of public accommodation is a testament to the absurdity of these laws.

 

"A solution for the homosexual hating florists"....the best solution is for them to leave the teachings of the Bible (the Bible says to not only hate gays, but to KILL gays, and not just in one place but in many places - so they really really mean it.) Jesus, over the last 2000 years, would of course know the texts say this (if he's all-powerful/divine like they claim), but in 2000 years Jesus has been too hateful to mention, not even once, to treat gays equally. Clearly Jesus hates f**s.

 

Thank goodness!! Great post, Maccabee!! Now I can turn away all those "darkies" that want to rent my apartments!! I prefer a more pure race to rent my apartments to - my fellow Aryans (including our dear Fuhrer) strongly agree with me!!

PS and when they have the audacity to drink from our "whites only" water fountains, I'm pretty sure that I can count on YOU to help me enforce that, right Maccabee?

 

Yes. Because as soon as you do that your business will sink and nobody will buy from you. Forcing you to serve blacks does not mean you don't hate blacks. By letting you express yourself I can then choose not to support your business.

 

So tomorrow, if you were to have a heart attack and you're rushed to a private hospital, you OK with the doctor on call saying, "Nope - don't like the color of his eyes- not going to help him."? Cause that's what you just argued for.
Now imagine it's your 4 year old son on the table...

 

Lots of 4 year olds having heart attacks these days?

 

Hospitals refuse patients all the time for various reasons. So if that were to happen I would obviously be upset but they have that freedom and they won't be business for long. I rather know ahead of time that they are a bunch of KKK members than for them to be forced to accept me and for some reason I died on the operating table.

 

Why is it that people with your perspective always go to the utterly ridiculous extreme?

A florist is not a life or death issue.

 

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


The only people really pushing forward for a free for all in the market, returning to lunch counters and segregated restaurants, believe they have nothing to lose and these bills will only effect others they don't like.

Which may be true in the short term but everything comes around eventually.

Why not just expect a for profit public business to serve the public? Why is that so absurd suddenly?

 

Do you understand the term, "legal precedent "?
Are you going to be sympathetic when the water company shuts off your supply because they find out you voted Republican? Or the Trash collectors skip your house because you marry a woman from a different race? Cause this is what you are arguing for - the legal precedent to carry out petty retribution.

 

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the community. In a town like Vidor Texas I don't think that would do a tiny bit of harm to a business. In fact in that community I think it would make your business more profitable. There was a time where people were denied the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness because of systematic discrimination. It's at that point we learn the positive nature of rights. Thus we made laws such as the civil rights act.

Hate is a thought or an emotion. You can't stop poeple from thinking or feeling it. That wasn't the goal of the civil rights act. The goal was to make sure that black people where equal citizens. Hate whatever you want. Nobody cares.

Nothing stops a person from expressing themselves. They can say all day long how they hate ******s christians women or jews. They just cannot deny service on the basis of race sex or religon. It's against the law. If you want to talk about repealing parts of the civil rights act, we can, but if you think we should just do whatever the hell we feel like and the law be damned, I'd say you're more of an anarchist.

 

More hysterical BS that reflects your distrust of people. A free market will self-correct because Americans are not inherently racist, or even inherently "haters". Stop projecting your "progressive" based hatred on rational people.

 

Total BS, and more hysterical exaggeration.

 

Sounds like you're not able to address his argument. That's rather telling.

 

Not all arguments merit a response. Just because you post some words in a forum does not mean they are rational, intelligent, or deserving of consideration. Sometimes its just BS and hysterical exaggeration.

 

Not all posters have the fortitude or the ability to counter an argument too. Further you did respond, it was just a weak cop out.

Sometimes it's an argument that you can't counter. In this case I think it's the latter.

People don't project hysteria on a person because their argument was poor.

 

Most won't care in major urban areas, especially in predominantly blue states. Its hard to find florist that WON'T in San Fransisco, New York, LA, Seattle etc. But your theory hits the rocks in small towns and in the South or in parts of the west or Midwest. If you live outside the Willamette Valley in my state(Oregon), its going to be a problem. Many towns only have one or two florists to choose from if they have any, and the local churches have a lot of influence, and most everyone is more conservative and less tolerant of 'gay' anything.

 

Well, I live in Texas, granted it's houston but I've traveled to many small hick towns and communities and I have never run into this. I don't think this is as big and as reaching as people make it out to be.

 

Somehow I really Doubt what you say, I live in Oregon, and would glady visit any Florist and see if it is so.

How would they know if a customer is Gay anyway ?
Oh you look too Gay, too whatever, I will not serve you ???

 

You are not likely to, unless you have tried to get same sex married in lots of these small towns and gone to every florist in , say a 50 mile radius of several 'hick towns' in Texas. You have to walk in the door with your same sex fiancée and document the reaction and the excuses.

 

Why would I go with an
Ex Fiancée ???
Why not My current fiancée ?