A step towards becoming a banana republic.

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Imagine a Democrat president that used the Office of the President to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political adversary that was a Republican that may be running against the Democrat president in the next election. The Republicans would be up in arms yet few possess the intellectual honesty to admit that.

    In the end the Senate will judge the President as innocent which will set a precedence making it OK for future Presidents to have those who threaten their political futures investigated. This is a step towards becoming a banana republic and it is tough for me to accept that because Republicans are slaves to their tribal nature that they are going to place party over country. Yet that is exactly what they are going to do. And yes, if roles were reversed the Democrats would act exactly as the Republicans currently are as they are also slaves to their own tribal nature.

    Presidents should not be allowed to investigate their political opponents. It is unethical. Investigations should be done through the DOJ with no involvement of the Executive Branch. It pains me that I have to point out what should be obvious to all.
     
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    You mean like the "Russian collusion" hoax?

    Should candidates who commit crimes not be investigated?

    The DOJ is the executive branch.
     
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    You mean like the "Russian collusion" hoax? What hoax?

    Should candidates who commit crimes not be investigated? Crooked Donald's position is HE CAN'T be investigated.

    The DOJ is the executive branch. Nope. It's supposed to be independent from the executive branch to avoid being politicized the way Individual 1 is politicizing it right now.
     
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    The department of justice has been politicized for quite some time now. In fact it has been politicized ever since it was held by the united state supreme court that the federal government had the authority to bring charges of violating interstate commerce against a farmer for growing crops for their private own use.
     
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    Yep, the DOJ is in the Executive Branch.....unless you're AOC or her followers.

    There's a big difference between investigating someone who confessed to a serious federal crime on video -versus- deep state operatives working at the direction of a President using spies and fabricated Russian evidence paid for by Presidential candidate that happens to be colluding with said President in order to rig an election.
     
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    No president should be involved with investigating a political rival. The DOJ should be the ones doing any investigation.

    Thanks for the correction on the DOJ being part of the Executive Branch. I wrongly thought it was part of the Judiciary.
     
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    No president should be involved with investigating a political rival. That should be the job of the DOJ.
     
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    Due to a mistake on my part, I did not realize that the DOJ is part of the Executive Branch, thus I reword the argument to be; Investigations should be done through the DOJ with no involvement of the White House.

    I errantly thought the DOJ was part of the Judiciary.
     
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    I think Trump wanted Bob Barr in on this. He's the US Attorney General. I'd think it fine for Trump to call their leader encouraging that his teams work with Barr to root out corruption from any source.
     
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    So why are the Democrats crying about Barr becoming involved ?

    Seems to me it is now more about an effort to obstruct his efforts.

    So, the old Dem mantra about the AG being totally independent of political influence doesn't work both ways? Its only valid when the Dems have a burning desire to cry about something?
     
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    The President is always involved since the President is mandated by the Constitution to : ''take care that the laws be faithfully executed,'

    1. Joe Biden is not his political rival as he is not the DNC's nominee

    2. If Joe Biden is the nominee and is involved in potential criminal activity, he is to be investigated like anyone else

    Tell me Hunter Biden got his position earning millions of dollars by merit.
     
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    Then why isn't the DOJ investigating? I don't recall Giulliani being part of the DOJ.
     
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    It's a shame that democrats are still whining about things like honesty and decency after covering up for the likes of Obama, Holder, Lynch, and Hillary.

    Double faced *******s.............the entire party and their base.
     
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    Trump isn't investigating....Bob Barr is....he is the Attorney General and it's his job. Barr is investigating what originally triggered the Russian hoax....and Ukraine was involved in it and Ukraine has admitted as much. Dumbass Dimentia Joe Biden just ran his fat mouth and it would a violation of the oath of office to turn a blind eye to corruption just because the felon is running for President.
     
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    Was Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, or Hillary Clinton's law firm part of the DOJ?
     
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    Apparently they were :roflol::roflol: Corrupt SOB's

    Guliani was gathering evidence as Trump's private lawyer in defense of Trump because of the Mueller Coup. Guliani did all his work before the Mueller Report came out. Sorry not sorry libs.
     
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    Your definition of political rival is sad.
     
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    Barr wasn't appointed by Trump? Was Hillary a president??
     
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    Trump and his sons are responsible for the Russian collusion concerns because the boys bragged that even though they were considered poison by American banks they had NO problem getting money from the Russians.
     
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    Nope and they were hired by Paul Singer .
     
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    Right.

    Let's compare how much money the Clintons got from Russia and then Trump.

    Go ahead and give us the amount of money the Trumps made in Russia.
     
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    and working with the FBI and DOJ.

    Who it was laundered through is irrelevant.
     
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    Unlike the Bidens...there was an investigation and nothing was found on the Trumps....what are the Bidens afraid of, have the investigation to clear there good name.
     
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    Yet you are fine when it comes to Trump. Pot kettle.
     
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    Sure he was.

    Are you suggesting Barr isn't involved? That would be foolish.

    Gee I wonder why they'd be interested in enlisting Rudy?

    Could it have something to do with his experience as a federal former prosecutor who took down the NYC mafia?

    Things that make you go: yeah.
     
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