A theory re: why leftists seem to be more prone to corruption.

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    A) I am not a Trump supporter.
    B) I am not a Republican.
    C) Democrats only believe in science when it supports their narrative. Examples: A baby in the womb can feel pain at 8 weeks of age. Democrats: Deny. Blacks have an average IQ of 85, 15 points lower than that of whites. Democrats: Deny. Socialist policies lead to worse results for all people, poor people included. Democrats: Deny. Gun control doesn't work. Democrats: Deny. Infrastructure spending is a lagging indicator. Democrats: Deny. There is no wage gap for women after controlling for years of experience and hours worked. Democrats: Deny. Marijuana has negative effects on brain development. Democrats: Deny. So don't give me any bullshit about how Republicans don't believe in science.
     
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    I would prosecute Obama for treason. No one in Washington has that much guts.
     
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    So, the gop is not only stupid, but gutless.
     
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    Well, after the first one, nothing else is true. IQ tests measure what you have been taught, they are not a measure of intelligence. That’s scientific fact. Medicare saves lives, social security saves lives. Both are socialism. Marijuana ? I have never met a dem who was not better educated on the pos and negative effects more then a conservative.
    No, if you believe in science, you’d be quoting Johns Hopkins and not Breitbart. You don’t even know what science is,

    You sound like a libertarian, which is just a Republican who likes sushi.
     
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    First thing you've ever said that I agree with.
     
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    Well, the Dems have prosecuted tons of republicans, according to republicans; so they're smarter, and more courageous.
     
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    False, false, and false. IQ tests are specifically designed to measure intelligence, not rote learning. That is scientific fact. Medicare and Social Security cannot be shown to have saved any lives because there's no evidence those people wouldn't have gotten care anyway. And I've never met a Democrat yet who would admit that marijuana was dangerous.

    Here you go, from the Johns-Hopkins NewsLetter: "Several recent studies have linked prolonged marijuana, or cannabis, use to adverse health effects such memory loss, impaired immune response, heart failure and decreased sperm count and motility, according to the Centers for Disease Control. However, one of the most well studied associations is that of cannabis use and psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and psychosis. According to a new study published in BMJ Open, cannabis use can lead to a longer road to recovery for psychiatric patients."

    https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2016/04/mental-health-effects-linked-to-marijuana/

    From the Feds:

    https://www.drugabuse.gov/publicati...a/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain
     
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    But they won't prosecute Democrats, even when they commit pedophilia and treason.
     
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    Oh, like Trumps labor sec who refused to prosecute Epstein for statutory rape ? All republicans.....
     
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    pedophilia - see the thread on boy rape in Afghanistan thanks to Trump's war in Afghanistan
     
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    I would prosecute traitor Bush but nobody anywhere had the guts to do so.
     
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    I see you have no scientific evidence that IQ tests actually measure intelligence. There is NONE.
    Secondly, the marijuana post is immaterial. No one ever disputed that this drug has negative effects, just like opioids, aspirin and agent orange or cancer treatment drugs . It’s a red herring. Liberals are much more aware.
     
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    This is what science says about IQ tests.
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/04/what-does-iq-really-measure
     
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    The problem with every study saying that IQ is malleable is that they are done on children, typically children under 11 years old. By the time a person reaches the age of 18, his/her IQ is within five points of his/her parents' IQ scores, and much less malleable. The study quoted above was done on 12 year olds. Then they went on to say that the children who succeeded in life were those who were highly motivated. Well, duh. The Head Start program was designed for black kids with a poor home life to get the same kind of stimulation that high SES white kids get before they start school, and for the first year or two, it worked. The kids who went through Head Start had an advantage over the kids who didn't. But by year three, the advantage had disappeared. The same thing happens with black kids in highly competitive (white, Asian, Jewish) schools... they try harder and do better than black kids in typically black-majority schools do, but by age 20, just two years out of school, they aren't doing any better than other black kids. Meanwhile, high IQ black kids, even if they go to run-down inner city schools, go on to get college degrees and to succeed in life. One of the minor motivational speakers out there was a poor Haitian (i.e., in Haiti) kid who taught himself how to read. High IQ will reveal itself.

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    There's also a strong link between the national average IQ and national economic success, second only to economic system in importance. The higher the average national IQ, the more prosperous that country is, and vice versa. No level of IQ can make socialism work, however. This was the point of the book, IQ and the Wealth of Nations.
     
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    Boy rape in Afghanistan has been going on for centuries. Nice try, but major fail.
     
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    I was just thinking that was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen anyone try to tie to Trump.
     
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    Still doesn't top Hurricane Katrina being Bush's fault, though.
     
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    IQ testing is irrelevant. Performance testing is. There is no general predictor of intelligence in all areas designated by IQ. Read the science.
    The AAAS is the largest membership of scientist in the world.
    Read it. It makes much more sense then innate IQ as a deciding factor in success. Performance testing is related to motivation. Motivation can easily vary by subject matter, Motivated students tend to succeed well beyond what their so called overall IQ is.
     
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    When the Taliban was in power they tried to stop it but today it is being financed by your tax dollars. No surprise to see how you and other right wingers love to see our tax dollars spent that way.
     
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    Trump is a self confessed sexual predator.
     
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    and he is financing the boy rape going on in Afghanistan much to the delight of the far right
     
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    Sure, and grass is blue and the sky is green. You have your head so far up your ass, you think Trump is Satan. Well, he isn't. That would be Hillary Clinton.

    "For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

    "Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy." "

    https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/brinkley/article/Afghanistan-s-dirty-little-secret-3176762.php
     
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    I remember now why I iggied you in the first place. You never get one ****ing thing right. Both homosexuals and pedophiles are overwhelmingly likely to be Democrats, not conservatives.
     
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    I have read a lot of the science. Psychologists agree that IQ is the most reliable measure of any kind in the business. Nothing else even comes close. There is a general level of intelligence, called g, that predicts how well someone will do at almost any task. If someone is good at one task, s/he is likely good at other tasks, because they all relate back to g. The most robust measures of IQ are those that are heavily g loaded, i.e., they are hard. The harder the test, the more accurate the IQ measurement. Yes, there are many other factors that go into whether or not someone is successful in life than IQ, but IQ is a limiting factor. If you want to be a ditch digger, any IQ will do. If you want to be a corporate manager, an IQ of 110 is required. If you want to be a lawyer, an IQ of 120 is necessary. If you want to be a physicist, an IQ of 140+ is essential. No amount of motivation can turn a ditch digger into a physicist. Generally speaking, those people who do extremely well in business (millionaires/billionaires) have a minimum IQ of 120, but stay below the IQ of 135, because the offset loss in social ability associated with very high IQ's impairs business success. Exceptions for those in the music, acting, and sports fields, of course, but no amount of motivation is going to make a man with an IQ of 90 into a billionaire.
     
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    You’re jumping from one thing to another. First, you have no reference. Just saying tha “psychologists say,” is not a reference. It’s just a bogus assertion on your part. Secondly, we never said that intelfence was not important. We’re saying that IQ test are not adaquate to measure it. Intelgence can only be measured by performance over time and then is is specific and is tied to motivation. Motivation is like the torque converter on the transmission of a car. It is a multiplier of the performance regardless of what the innate gear ratios are. Making a fire requires more important performance related intelligence if you’re lost then a fking business man skill level. Business performance is just one attritbute.

    Intelligence is very task specific too. Because there are nerve bundles located throughout the body that aid in performance, it’s no longer just the brain that determines the success in performing a task. Motivation, experience and something munadane like health at the time, are all factors in determining performance.
    Do a little more reading in science. Because intel is hard to define, it’s equally hard to measure and cannot be done reliably .

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201811/what-is-intelligence

    Do more scientific research instead of a business mag and come back with actual reference before you claim IQ tests are valid.

    You measure intelligence over time through performance and it’s task specific and infuienced by motivation and general health. There is no single test that can measure it. Low level language preparation always gets in the way. Written Tests are unreliable and only measure performance at one point in time. .
     
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