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  1. Ned Lud

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    As seems to be the usual case, I don't know what you are talking about, but if it is what I suspect, the murder of a large number of people by tory profiteers is certainly much more important than this footling Brexit game which, as you know, will end with our grovelling to be allowed back.
     
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    Trump will hardly help us either!
     
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    Mr Corbyn, for the first time since 1951, is putting Britain in front of a scabby little group of thieves, as you know.
     
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    I'm not defending Labour. I am more amused by the idea that you feel you have greater entitlement to protest in a certain place than someone else to make use of that space instead of you. I personally find protests in general to be superfluous, but protesting because your side lost a popular vote seems even more pointless. If the losing side in every vote got a do-over, elections would be pointless.
     
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    What in God's name have the bloody tories ever had to protest about?
     
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    You would need to ask Rhetoric
     
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    That's exactly what I'm saying, that remainers in London had more of a right than Labour did that week. We had an issue, they had an internal Labour Party problem. Why couldn't Labour take their fight to Sheffield, Manchester or Leeds?
    Now you seem to think Labour matter, they don't, Labour doesn't matter at all.
    Labour didn't matter in June 2016 and they don't even matter now, their problem is people like you saying they can have a platform, however, when others need it, Labour wants it, a want came before a need.
    London needed it more, the country needed it more, and had to wait for that bastard to **** off.
    Labour don't matter @Deckel, learn that.
     
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    Labour don't matter because they're not in power.
    Corbyn supporters hijacked Parliament Square on purpose and haven't even issued an apology because they're Labour.
    Saying something like
    'We know you voted to remain, we know how upset this must have been for you, and we regret to have robbed you of expressing your outrage in a positive manner'
    This didn't happen, Labour has yet to apologise for making us wait all that time.
     
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    Tell me, what did Labour have to do with the shock that was Brexit?
    It was in bad taste and everything Labour do is in bad taste and anti democracy.
     
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    Labour lies...
    Who are the thieves?
    Jeremy Corbyn wants a transaction tax on banking and make it tougher on employers.
    Bankers already donate to charities and charitable deeds and events in a practise you're failing to address called philanthropy.
     
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    Labour hate that we have the freedom to say NO.
     
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    Labour lies calling those who earn money thieves completely ignoring charity work and donations thinking (for some deluded reason) that when someone takes their earnings, they're somehow robbing the country, so they want the country to rob those who earn.
     
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    It's called coveting and it's a sin.
    Watch Labour, sitting there, coveting the money people earn, working out ways to take it with their evil mits.
    It's forcing the Christian act of charity which goes against Christianity when it's forced.
    It's forcing Muslims and Atheists and everyone else in Britain who contribute to this Christian act in the most unholy of all ways, by taxing it out of people instead of people doing it their selves.
     
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    We have a mixed economy, part free trade, part command.
    When government control industry then it becomes more of a command economy which makes for both a monopoly and a burden to the government giving the government one more thing to do.
     
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    Benefit Culture is a problem created by Labour meaning those who need have to share what limited resources there are with those who don't.
    When you protect benefits, you're not reviewing it, not means testing it, not capping it and doing nothing but creating Benefit Culture, which is an abuse of the benefits system which, if Labour were in power, would go unchecked meaning those who need are being given less because more people claim it than need it.
    This isn't protecting the most vulnerable, this is protecting Benefit Culture.

    People can have a job and be disabled, and if people are too ill to work, then it's only right they get the support they need.
    Employers can hire and accommodate for employees with disabilities.
    Why not make it easier on employers and corporations for the community?

    When you don't cap it, and freeze it, then people won't want to work because they could see more by claiming Job Seekers Allowance rather than working.
    In conclusion, Benefit Culture; Is the Labour pandemic you don't want to talk about.
    Benefit Culture is real, and must be defeated.
     
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    I never said anything about Labour one way or the other so I am not sure why you seem to think I am commenting as it pertains to any sides other than your position that your side should have first priority to a public space strikes me as odd. David Miliband is the only person in Labour that has ever caught my fancy, but he properly belongs outside government because he is way too liberal in ways that favor foreigners over citizens to the point it crosses the bridge to self-destruction. I am not saying I dislike his values but they are better expressed through non-governmental endeavors as I am a realist and DM seemed to be fond of absurd positions when it comes to refugees, etc. .
     
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    Bankers exist by using our money to pay for their crimes, and the tory party.
     
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    Your money?
    Our money?
    It's the banks money.
    Bankers are paid by their employers who are the banks.
     
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    You want to get our money back?
    Freeze job seekers allowance, make sure millionaires don't receive benefits because they're disabled or have children.
     
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    Protecting the vulnerable doesn't mean those who can afford to save.
    This practise of saving benefits, using it to supplement their income, in other words; Taking from those who truly need it.
     
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    Your only problem is that Gordon Brown, the half blind Labour PM (who probably also claimed some sort of disability for it), bailed out the banks.
    Making the tax payer pay the banker, this was a New Labour practise and allowed bankers to take from the public pot.
    Thanks to Gordon Brown.
     
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    If you believe that I think it is time you read up on economics. What work do banks go in for to get money? Do they dig it up? Have trees it grows on? Capitalist believers are strange beings!
     
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    that doesn't make sense, but then, neither do Labour if you're reasonable.
     
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    No one can accuse Labour being reasonable hijacking London's Parliament Square in the wake of Brexit, calling for the PM to resign this summer, calling for Pay Role companies to be abolished forcing people to either employ or become self employed and the worse, hiking corporation tax to protect benefits, making the living wage £10.00 per hour and making examples of those who defy, and pledging to turn Britain into a command economy while backing unions like ASLEF that bully private enterprise telling its members what to do rather than their employers.
     
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    Lots of thieves pay out conscience money, and always have. Thieves do no work, as you know. It is not a term the Labour Party uses, as very well you know. It is wicked to tell lies. Didn't Mommy tell you?
     

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