A Very American Coup

The party that controls the Presidency averages 37 House seats during a midterm election if the President is unpopular according to Gallup. I’d say your boy is looking good right now.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/12/biden-approval-rating-in-drops-again-to-33-percent-poll/

“President Biden’s job approval rating has tumbled to 33 percent in the latest Quinnipiac University poll, a whopping 17 percentage-point drop from February and an indication of American voters’ deep dissatisfaction over his administration’s response to rising inflation and a resurgence of COVID-19.

More than half of American adults (53 percent) disapprove of the job the president is doing, while 13 percent told the pollster they couldn’t offer an opinion.“​

 

An interesting poll on the whole:

On the Congressional investigation of the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, 61 percent support the investigation while 33 percent oppose it.

Democrats support the investigation 83 - 15 percent, independents support it 65 - 30 percent, while Republicans oppose it 60 - 36 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3831​

So-called Republicans stand alone and in the minority, and this brings us back to what I was saying before you attempted this distraction: The GQP is no longer a viable party. It relies on KGB tactics (lies, disinformation, vilification of opposition, etc.) and essentially tries to create its own alternative reality -- its own narrative -- of reality for people to believe in. Accordingly, as you can see in this poll, respondents who identify as Republican have a very different view of January 6 and the Congressional investigation into it than most other Americans.

One more example of this from the same poll:

Americans say 57 - 34 percent that they do not believe there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Republicans, however, say 71 - 22 percent that they believe there was widespread voter fraud.​

 

I have less of a dog in this fight than you seem to think. I’m not registered as a Republican, nor as a Democrat for that matter. Both parties are filled with corrupt, deplorable people. But I disagree with you on which party is worse. The Democratic Party is by far the more corrupt of the two, always has been.

 

The racism of it misses the mark and is really just secondary. The laws are aimed squarely at the poor, the handicapped and the old. The major thing the Republicans want to have only the rich voting

 

I'm an independent myself and never had much love for either party, but Trump and Russia definitely changed my outlook.

 

I never liked Trump, never voted for him, despise his personal behavior. But, he was legitimately elected in 2016, and I think some of his policies where good for the country.

 

What percentage of voters do you think lack ID?

 

My 80 year old mother didn't. She hadn't driven for several years and had physically lost her license years ago. There wasn't any replacement ID program going on and we didn't even know where to go to get her birth certificate.

Fortunately she had never missed an election, but what if you had an old person who did? What about an older person who lost their ID and didn't have any children to help them?

And one unrelated thing I brought up in another thread that was never answered, how is it that giving a drink of water to someone next to you in the long lines who looks faint can subject you to arrest? How does that prevent voter fraud?

 

He was legitimately elected and the result is a good reason that process should be revised so it is no longer legitimate. He legitimately ****ed us up.

 

No, the process is fine the way it is.

Not everyone you meet at the voting sites are honest. Democrats will take advantage of that to campaign immediately before someone votes, or influence them on other ways. In a sane and honest world that kind of restriction wouldn’t be necessary. Unfortunately, we don’t live in that world.

 

It's fine because it gave us Trump. If Hillary had won on the EC conservatives would have got their guns. The EC is silly on the face of it. Areas with more people SHOULD have more say, you don't go back and try to make it "fair" for the little village vs the big city, it's not an election if you do that.

 

Oh, stop! That’s nonsense, everyone was expecting her to win.

 

IF Hillary had lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College I maintain the conservatives would have had a civil war going the next day

Read:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ectoral-college-disaster-2012-tweet/93575326/

 

Yeah, I’ve heard the stories. I don’t personally know anyone who thought Trump would win, and certainly no one how would fight for him in the event he won the popular vote but lost the EC. Most of the Republican leadership at the time hated him

I had long since left the Republican Party by 2016 because of the milquetoast nature of the establishment Republicans who where afraid to ever fight, always acting like a minority even when they held the majority. I was surprised that so many others felt the same betrayal from the party and where willing to vote for Trump in spite of his repulsive personality. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him but others were, and by the millions.

 

Most people who voted for Trump were voting against America and they knew it very well. You realized that though you didn't understand it entirely and that is why you didn't vote for him

 

I find that hilarious that you think you know my REAL reasons for doing something. You’re making a mistake if you think that if you can just rid of Trump that simmering resentment of a corrupt and depraved political class will go away. It won’t.

 

Agreed. It probably never will. But Trump is is a corrupt and depraved political class all by and to himself. He and his Trumpers are really the last remnants of those who thought we were fighting on the wrong side in WWII

I don't admit that Trump did anything good but it has to be remembered that Hitler pulled Germany out of the Depression before almost any other European country and was being called the "Greatest German" by quite a few people at the time. Just being a brutal psychopath doesn't mean you're incapable of governing well but governing well doesn't excuse being a brutal psychopath either.

 

OK, now you’re off in the tall grass.

 

That's where the lions are.

 

Voting is a fundamental Constitutional right. This means that a governmental entity has to have a compelling state interest based upon actual reasons to place limitations on that right.

Voter ID is based upon fabrications and poppycock.

 

Uh, good "argument".

 

What is the GOP platform anyway? Lielielielielie and bullshit?

 

Nope, it’s based on the need for legitimacy in voting.

 

But the 2020 election was legitimate, so you're admitting that the GQP's platform is lielielielielie and bullshit.

 

Nope, that sounds more like the Donkey Party platform.