A woman has an obligation to give birth

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  1. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    What's your point?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't seem to be able to follow the logic of discussions very well.
     
  3. Ritter

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    What's your point?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You basically asked me what the point was in not wanting to discuss fetal development in this thread.

    So that was the point (that you are now asking about).
     
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  5. Ritter

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    I have told you a trillion times in many different threads already; no rights until birth.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm going to stop having this discussion with you. You don't seem to be able/willing to put in the effort/energy to follow the discussion.

    You seem to only be replying to individual posts, completely out of context from the rest of the discussion we had just prior. That's no way to carry out an argument.
     
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  7. Ritter

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    Finally!
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    Ya, so?
     
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    WHAT! NOT THE EVIL "REPLYING TO INDIVIDUAL POSTS""


    OHMYGAWD!!

    Uh, isn't that what we do here ???!
    Sheesh , talk about going off topic


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    You've never agreed to ensuring that abortion is fully legal for the first 20 weeks, so why is 20 weeks an issue?

    Then, you talk about amnesia.

    At other times, you talk about the existence of a heartbeat, which comes WAY earlier, as a time limit.

    Then, you switch to talk about late term abortion.

    Then, you talk about laws against abortion at ANY fetal age, regardless of any other issue.


    If you want people to figure out what your actual position is, you need to state that position.

    Then, you have to start consistently supporting that position. And, when you fail at that (which you will, because it's rare on this board that anyone changes their mind), you can't just blame people for not remembering all your posts, especially when they are all over the place.


    As for your position, the best I can do is guess that you oppose abortion at ANY fetal age and the primary reason is your religious belief.

    If that's the true reason (as opposed to heart beat, etc.), then any of these other arguments you make are seriously disingenuous, aren't they?
     
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    The poster in question has been informed many many times that they are fallaciously conflating all stages of pregnancy into one.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is you who is unable to follow logic - so do not be projecting your failings onto others. Would you like a few examples ?
     
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    I suggest that pro lifers, nor anyone else should have absolutely no say what so ever under any condition on if a women decides to give birth.
     
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    It that some sort of argument?
     
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    Is that some sort of response?

    It is more of response than you gave to other posts :)

    ..and why does anyone have to present an argument? You haven't...
     
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    And a man has the obligation to die for his nation without question....Our president's of the last decade have been less than men on their obligation which means women don't have to be obligated to give birth..
     
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    Its a statement.
     
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    :) Better than NO response at all.....hint, hint...
     
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    no one should force rape victims to have their rapists babies, it's just sick
     
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    once your born, things change

    for Republicans it depends on how much money your parents have


    "Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

    "But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."
     
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    easy cheap access to birth control is the number one way to reduce abortions, yet most pro-lifers are against it

    most anti-choicers see childbirth as a punishment for having sex it seems, what they really hate is that others have sex for pleasure and not only for procreation
     
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