A woman on what it's like living with Female Genital Mutilation

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By perpetuating it, they actively deny the nature of what was done to them.
    If they had to say "Well maybe we shouldn't do this anymore" they'd have to confront the reasons why.
    I think on some subconscious level many women who were cut can't stand to see one of their family members intact. It's a constant reminder of something they don't have.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that a question, or what? [​IMG]
     
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    Muslims, Christians and Jews just need to leave children's privates alone
     
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    Whenever FGM comes up, why do some people always want to make it about circumcision? Not even close to the same thing.
     
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    it is the same thing, do you defend Preachers sucking on a boys privates after the procedure done, that is gross and should be a crime and get one put on the sex offender list

    "Herpes cases among babies linked to ultra-Orthodox Jewish circumcision ritual"

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sion-ritual-link-rabbis-infants-a7620446.html

    "New York health department alerts doctors to infections linked to ancient ritual in which circumcision wound is cleaned by mouth""

    this should be a choice each person makes when they are old enough to make it for themselves - this is something that can never be undone if done to a innocent baby - outlaw both genital mutilation procedures
     
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  6. Lil Mike

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    A lot of circumcision happens in the country every day, and virtually none of it in the matter of your linked article. So again, you are once again outside the subject matter of this thread. If you have some sort of cutting commentary (see what I did there?) feel free to create a thread on circumcision, but that's not the subject of this thread, and it's clearly obvious what you are trying to do by throwing stop sticks in this conversation.
     
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    are you against the type in the article? do you agree it should be a sex crime?

    I think both should be sex crimes.... I say leave the children's privates alone.. male or female
     
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    As I've noted, that's not the topic of this thread. It's actually in the Women's rights section. It's true.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. The Jews were the reason they couldn't get a ban passed in San Francisco (it came very close to passing).
    Denmark ran into the same problem when a bill to ban circumcision came up in their parliament (it was seriously considered).

    Go talk with the member in this forum PeppermintTwist, she's a flaming Progressive Liberal who has vehemently defended the practice of male circumcision, and she also mentioned that she's Jewish.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder, with the Left in Europe forming a political alliance with muslims, how long is it going to be until they can no longer prosecute female circumcision?
    (or likely they'll just have to get gradually more and more soft on enforcement and punishment, until it effectively no longer becomes a deterrent, and at that point it won't be a big jump to just ignoring the law if it becomes very widespread)

    Something you may want to take notice of here, apparently muslims are quick to adapt, even coming from areas where FGM wasn't practiced:
    Syrian girls being subjected to FGM in Egypt
     
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    yep, sadly if you give one religion a religious exception to mutilate a child's privates, you have to give the other one as well... the easy answer is to ban it all, let the child decide when he\she is old enough
     
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    I'm pretty sure the practice would immediately come to a stop if it was the child deciding for themselves when they were older.

    Except in cases like that 21 year old girl I linked to, where her parents tried to force her into it.
     
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    agree, most adults would definitely say no to a procedure like these
     
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    Leave peoples junk alone.
    Why are humans fascinated with everyone elses junk?
     
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    so you can't say your against that type of circumcisions... got it - I am against both types
     
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    No you're not. You're only interested in throwing this thread off track. It seems to be a familiar pattern whenever FGM is brought up.
     
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    Male circumcision is like circumcising out her labia minora and clitoral hood, but leaving her clitoris there.

    It might even be worse, because the labia minora has only 2000 nerve endings, whereas the male foreskin has 20,000.
    In comparison, both the male glans and clitoris contain approximately the same number of nerve endings, 7 to 8000.
    That means male circumcision takes away 71% of the nerve endings from the male, whereas the analogous form of female circumcision (if it were done) would only take away 20% of hers.
     
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    American woman who was forced to undergo female genital mutilation at age seven details horrific ordeal
    Mariya Taher, 33, underwent the painful procedure while she was on holiday in Mumbai, India, as a young girl
    The campaigner, who now lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts, said she remembers being taken to an 'old-looking building'.
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates more than 500,000 women and girls in the US could be at risk of FGM.

    An American woman who underwent female genital mutilation when she was just seven years old has spoken out about undergoing the painful and terrifying procedure while she was on a family vacation in India.
    Mariya Taher, now 33, said she remembers being taken to a run-down apartment while on holiday in Mumbai, being made to lay down on the floor, before she had her dress lifted up and felt 'something sharp cut me'.​
     
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    Child abuse is child abuse irrespective of gender?
     
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    It's mindless rituals like this, practised and perpetuated by adults with full-developed brains, that make me despair for our species. It's the most disgusting example of man's inhumanity to man; abuse by the strongest against the weakest.
     
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    You do know that’s bullshit. Believe me if male circumcision took away 71% of the nerve endings there would be no male circumcision. Circumcising men does not take away sexual satisfaction. If you remove the clitoris a woman is incapable of orgasm
     
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    Oh well, too bad for her
     
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    Actually, that is the exact reason to.why there is male circumcision. So, this comment is rather funny. :laughing:

    Of course it does.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    G all those millions of circumsized men faking orgasms..lol
     
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    Who said anything about "faking orgasms"? I really cannot see what kind of half-arsed, snarky point it is that you are trying to make here.

    I simply pointed out that "routine infant circumcision" has its roots in the Puritanistic fear of masturbation and sexual pleasure and started as a mean to regulate this perceived evil.
     
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